Clear Sig 552

Wrath144 · August 25th, 2008, 16:22

So after a few hours of digging, I believe I have found the original manufacturer of these clear 552's. As it has been stated by others in other threads, I believe they are manufactured by Tokyo Marui. The trail I found goes like this:
TM -> Cybergun -> Swiss Arms
This is just what I found, I may be wrong. This is the information I went from, whether it is correct or not remains to be seen.
Airsocom says manufacturer is Cybergun
And ShortyUSA says the TM version is licensed through Cybergun.
If my logic is flawed please feel free to flame, I know I would flame me too.

Donster · August 25th, 2008, 16:29

thanks for the info!

tycho · August 25th, 2008, 16:31

wow - if that's the case then the $220 price tag is quite sweet (for those people that don't freak out about having to paint them)

nice work

Crunchmeister · August 25th, 2008, 16:40

Made in China. No way in hell it's TM. Sig-licensed? Perhaps, but I doubt it since Chinese aren't knows for playing into copyright / trademark laws. TM-compatible? Definitely. Made by TM? Not a chance in Hades.

And BTW, the one you linked to on shortyusa is a NON-CLEAR TM... Big difference... I think shorty may have just copied a generic description for that gun.

Tex · August 25th, 2008, 16:44

cybergun is an import company which, through legal means, has bought many of the licensing rights to import fully-trademarked airsoft products into the US. the shortyUSA link is for a TM nothing more just a legally trademarked TM it has nothing to do with the clear one. cybergun imports from many manufacturers. this clear one is not TM. TM has already said they will not make clear guns.

Crunchmeister · August 25th, 2008, 16:47

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tex

cybergun is an import company which, through legal means, has bought many of the licensing rights to import fully-trademarked airsoft products into the US.

To expand on that - they are like Echo 1 in a sense. They accquired licensing rights, and buy these guns from China. They repackage / rebrand them as Cybergun, and resell them.

Echo 1, however, buy up non-branded JG and other Chinese guns, trademark them as Echo 1, do extra QA, and then resell them as Echo 1.

And also as tex stated, TM never has and never will produce clear guns.

Curtis Tactics · August 25th, 2008, 16:52

its a jg take a look at airsoft gi, they have non clear sig that is swiss licensed. also it has a black gearbox recently found in newer jg products.
just my two cents
http://www.airsoftgi.com/product_inf...oducts_id=3984

pusangani · August 25th, 2008, 16:53

Echo 1 is one thing, their guns have proven to be above par than the other clones, I've never heard anything good about Cybergun but I do like the Sig 552's looks so if it does turn out to be a good gun, I would consider buying one and giving it the 'ole krylon treatment

Wrath144 · August 25th, 2008, 17:06

Ok so it's not a TM, then is it a JG? JG does have a licensed 552 and the gearbox looks black, could it be true?

Edit: Now I think of it, the FPS of the Swiss Arms is way above the TM, so that doesn't make sense anyway.

tycho · August 25th, 2008, 17:18

Well - even a JG for that price isn't bad. What are the chances that CG or SA does the same sort of QA that Echo1 does with its rebrands? If it were similar, then the deal would still be quite interesting.

Crunchmeister · August 25th, 2008, 17:20

Yeah. TMs are usually in the 260-290 fps range... That's WAY too hot to be a TM.

Quote:

Originally Posted by pusangani

Echo 1 is one thing, their guns have proven to be above par than the other clones

That's because they give extra QA treatment to their JG guns before shipping. And problematic stuff is fixed, they're reshimmed, relubed, etc... Makes a big difference in many cases. In other cases, JG guns are excellent too.

And I woudn't be surprised to find out that it is indeed a JG mechbox in these guns. However, I wouldn't count on it because it's black. DBoys also make non-reinforced black mechboxes. It doesn't take much to spray paint a mechbox.

ALLGAR · August 25th, 2008, 17:52

lol USA has to deal with licensing rights cause they dont want to hurt the feelings of metalica

Disco_Dante · August 25th, 2008, 18:13

What?

KenC · August 25th, 2008, 19:52

Cyber guns's licensed Swiss Arms Sig 552 clear, is made by JG.

I will be carrying this clear JG 552 as well.

Ken

THE CAT · August 26th, 2008, 02:30

The one I ordered at AIRGUNSOURCE just arrived at my door today.

On the box, it's clearly written:
PRODUCED BY CYBERGUN SA - BP87 Bondoufle - France
Distributed in the USA by:
SOFT AIR USA Dallas (Tx)

I went to the workshop to do some mods on it. First,it's 100% TM compatible (I used to have the TM version). Beside some flaws in the plastic parts (minor), it's a well done AEG.

- Flashhider is -14mm but it's plastic
- Metal outer barrel, sights, trigger...
- NiMH 1100mAh 8.4v with wall charger
- Cheap sling
- 300 Low quality BBs
- The markings on the body are not genuine
- Black GB and unknown motor (Looks like a JG)

Didn't pass it on the chrony but it seem to have a hard punch.

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August 25th, 2008, 16:22	#1
Wrath144 formerly steyr Trader rating Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Winnipeg, Manitoba	Clear Sig 552 So after a few hours of digging, I believe I have found the original manufacturer of these clear 552's. As it has been stated by others in other threads, I believe they are manufactured by Tokyo Marui. The trail I found goes like this: TM -> Cybergun -> Swiss Arms This is just what I found, I may be wrong. This is the information I went from, whether it is correct or not remains to be seen. Airsocom says manufacturer is Cybergun And ShortyUSA says the TM version is licensed through Cybergun. If my logic is flawed please feel free to flame, I know I would flame me too. __________________ BROFORCE Admin - Winnipeg Airsoft

August 25th, 2008, 16:31	#3
tycho Trader rating Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Toronto, Ont.	wow - if that's the case then the $220 price tag is quite sweet (for those people that don't freak out about having to paint them) nice work __________________

August 25th, 2008, 16:40	#4
Crunchmeister Trader rating Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: In your bedroom going though your underwear drawer	Made in China. No way in hell it's TM. Sig-licensed? Perhaps, but I doubt it since Chinese aren't knows for playing into copyright / trademark laws. TM-compatible? Definitely. Made by TM? Not a chance in Hades. And BTW, the one you linked to on shortyusa is a NON-CLEAR TM... Big difference... I think shorty may have just copied a generic description for that gun. __________________ Last edited by Crunchmeister; August 25th, 2008 at 16:44..

August 25th, 2008, 16:29	#2
Donster Trader rating Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: GTA	thanks for the info!

August 25th, 2008, 16:44	#5
Tex Trader rating Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Abbotsford, B.C.	cybergun is an import company which, through legal means, has bought many of the licensing rights to import fully-trademarked airsoft products into the US. the shortyUSA link is for a TM nothing more just a legally trademarked TM it has nothing to do with the clear one. cybergun imports from many manufacturers. this clear one is not TM. TM has already said they will not make clear guns. __________________ W-69 _/\|

August 25th, 2008, 16:52	#7
Curtis Tactics Trader rating Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Coquitlam B.C.	its a jg take a look at airsoft gi, they have non clear sig that is swiss licensed. also it has a black gearbox recently found in newer jg products. just my two cents http://www.airsoftgi.com/product_inf...oducts_id=3984 __________________ "Fight fear. Fight distress. Fight chaos. Fight with the Canadian Forces."

August 25th, 2008, 16:53	#8
pusangani Official ASC "Dumb Ass" Trader rating Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Scarbrah, Ontario	Echo 1 is one thing, their guns have proven to be above par than the other clones, I've never heard anything good about Cybergun but I do like the Sig 552's looks so if it does turn out to be a good gun, I would consider buying one and giving it the 'ole krylon treatment

August 25th, 2008, 17:06	#9
Wrath144 formerly steyr Trader rating Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Winnipeg, Manitoba	Ok so it's not a TM, then is it a JG? JG does have a licensed 552 and the gearbox looks black, could it be true? Edit: Now I think of it, the FPS of the Swiss Arms is way above the TM, so that doesn't make sense anyway.

August 25th, 2008, 17:18	#10
tycho Trader rating Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Toronto, Ont.	Well - even a JG for that price isn't bad. What are the chances that CG or SA does the same sort of QA that Echo1 does with its rebrands? If it were similar, then the deal would still be quite interesting. __________________

August 25th, 2008, 17:52	#12
ALLGAR Trader rating Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: british columbia	lol USA has to deal with licensing rights cause they dont want to hurt the feelings of metalica __________________ ALLGAR great wizard.

August 25th, 2008, 18:13	#13
Disco_Dante Trader rating Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: GTA	What? __________________ Not for glory, nor riches, nor honours, but for freedom alone, which no good man gives up except with his life.

August 25th, 2008, 19:52	#14
KenC Trader rating Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Calgary	Cyber guns's licensed Swiss Arms Sig 552 clear, is made by JG. I will be carrying this clear JG 552 as well. Ken __________________

August 26th, 2008, 02:30	#15
THE CAT Banned Trader rating Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Quebec City	The one I ordered at AIRGUNSOURCE just arrived at my door today. On the box, it's clearly written: PRODUCED BY CYBERGUN SA - BP87 Bondoufle - France Distributed in the USA by: SOFT AIR USA Dallas (Tx) I went to the workshop to do some mods on it. First,it's 100% TM compatible (I used to have the TM version). Beside some flaws in the plastic parts (minor), it's a well done AEG. - Flashhider is -14mm but it's plastic - Metal outer barrel, sights, trigger... - NiMH 1100mAh 8.4v with wall charger - Cheap sling - 300 Low quality BBs - The markings on the body are not genuine - Black GB and unknown motor (Looks like a JG) Didn't pass it on the chrony but it seem to have a hard punch.

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