mac 11 mag question

cloves · February 21st, 2008, 17:19

how does this thing work?
this m11 mag

i've been told they work in those Tactical Force mac11's.
However the m11 i have, the mag takes a c02 cartridge. Does this one work the same way? Or do you charge the mag with green gas??

CDN_Stalker · February 21st, 2008, 17:21

Hard to tell but looks like it takes green gas/propane.

cloves · February 21st, 2008, 17:36

CDN_Stalker, yeah that's what i thought too. Sooooo......next question would be, what would that do....er, how would my M11 function on propane do you figure? I remember seeing a gas comparison chart around here somewhere.
But propane wouldn't hurt my gun would it?

Crunchmeister · February 21st, 2008, 18:44

Propane wouldn't hurt your gun, but if it's designed for a higher pressure gas (CO2), the performance on propane may be lacking and rof will more than likely take a big hit. There's a possibility that there might not be enough pressure to cycle the bolt. But it wouldn't hurt it.

Now, it MAY work just fine too, but with reduced performance.

CDN_Stalker · February 21st, 2008, 18:52

Propane is typically a bit higher pressure than green gas, guess is maybe 20-30psi stronger, but I can't say if that mag will work in your gun nor can I say what will happen since I only have expereince with the KSC M11A1s.

Torque · February 21st, 2008, 19:18

I thought propane and green gas are one and the same.

Quote:

Originally Posted by CDN_Stalker

Propane is typically a bit higher pressure than green gas, guess is maybe 20-30psi stronger, but I can't say if that mag will work in your gun nor can I say what will happen since I only have expereince with the KSC M11A1s.

Crunchmeister · February 22nd, 2008, 14:57

Propane is green gas. I think perhaps Stalker meant to say CO2 instead of propane at the beginning of his post, because CO2 is about 20-30 psi stronger than propane / green gas.

CDN_Stalker · February 22nd, 2008, 14:58

No, somewhere there is some info showing propane is a bit more psi than green gas, and I think it was backed up with chrony results. Maybe the stink gives the BBs a bit more poop?

Crunchmeister · February 22nd, 2008, 15:27

I'd have to find the gas comparison chart, but I seem to remember that the numbers you gave of 20-30 psi is the difference between CO2 and propane / green gas. I could see green and propane having different pressures because even though they're the same base gase, they do have different additives, but I don't think there'd be that much of a difference. 20-30 psi is a pretty substantial difference.

CDN_Stalker · February 22nd, 2008, 15:56

Well, yes it is, but notice I said it was a guess at the numbers? Don't recall (nor did I then) the exact numbers, but 20-30 was kinda high, could be more like 10 or something.

cloves · February 22nd, 2008, 16:01

either way, green gass or propane has too low a psi for this mac 11 though you think??

CDN_Stalker · February 22nd, 2008, 16:11

Only two ways to find out, try it or search out the info. I've never heard of that gun before, not even on here, so chances are few will have any info to give. Try the gas discussion section on www.airsoftretreat.com for better info (and MUCH more people there too).

cloves · February 22nd, 2008, 20:18

haven't heard of the gun I have??? weird
check this thread

CDN_Stalker · February 22nd, 2008, 21:01

Nope. I have fired a CO2 powered mini Uzi though, and holy freaking recoil and rate of fire on the thing!!! Is like hugging a jackhammer while it's running!

Besides, I've been around airsoft for almost 5 years now, and all the clones and weird brands are new to me, they have really only been popping up the past couple years and haven't made a breakthrough to me (or most others) til a year and a bit ago.

Uziguy · February 22nd, 2008, 21:41

I also own the Tac. Force M11 (Great gun) If those green mags will fit in the gun then they should work the same as the co2 mags that come with the gun. The Tac. Force gun uses the Maruzen blowback system and the Co2 mags that they come with are regulated (stock co2 is like 800 psi). They may be regulated down to 110-120psi which is what green/propane is.

I wouldnt hesitate on trying it out if I were you (if your sure that they will fit). Its kind of the same concept as the WE's (Hi-Capa's) that can either use green or the co2 mags. Your fps,rof and recoil will all go down slightly but not enough to not make it worth while in the long run. Plus the mags that come with the Tac Force are hideous.

And if this green mag will work in the M11 then it will also work in the Crosman Micro Uzi ('cause the Crosman and Tac. Force mags are identical) I own both guns, so I know.

I might do this myself someday....

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February 21st, 2008, 17:19	#1
cloves Trader rating Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Charlottetown, PEI	mac 11 mag question how does this thing work? this m11 mag i've been told they work in those Tactical Force mac11's. However the m11 i have, the mag takes a c02 cartridge. Does this one work the same way? Or do you charge the mag with green gas?? __________________ Inside me is a thin woman, screaming to get out. But I can usually shut the btch up with chocolate.*

February 21st, 2008, 17:21	#2
CDN_Stalker Official ASC Bladesmith Trader rating Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Ottawa, Ont.	Hard to tell but looks like it takes green gas/propane. __________________ STKR Knives http://www.facebook.com/#!/pages/STK...17036668380871

February 21st, 2008, 17:36	#3
cloves Trader rating Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Charlottetown, PEI	CDN_Stalker, yeah that's what i thought too. Sooooo......next question would be, what would that do....er, how would my M11 function on propane do you figure? I remember seeing a gas comparison chart around here somewhere. But propane wouldn't hurt my gun would it? __________________ Inside me is a thin woman, screaming to get out. But I can usually shut the btch up with chocolate.*

February 21st, 2008, 18:44	#4
Crunchmeister Trader rating Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: In your bedroom going though your underwear drawer	Propane wouldn't hurt your gun, but if it's designed for a higher pressure gas (CO2), the performance on propane may be lacking and rof will more than likely take a big hit. There's a possibility that there might not be enough pressure to cycle the bolt. But it wouldn't hurt it. Now, it MAY work just fine too, but with reduced performance. __________________

February 21st, 2008, 18:52	#5
CDN_Stalker Official ASC Bladesmith Trader rating Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Ottawa, Ont.	Propane is typically a bit higher pressure than green gas, guess is maybe 20-30psi stronger, but I can't say if that mag will work in your gun nor can I say what will happen since I only have expereince with the KSC M11A1s. __________________ STKR Knives http://www.facebook.com/#!/pages/STK...17036668380871

February 22nd, 2008, 14:57	#7
Crunchmeister Trader rating Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: In your bedroom going though your underwear drawer	Propane is green gas. I think perhaps Stalker meant to say CO2 instead of propane at the beginning of his post, because CO2 is about 20-30 psi stronger than propane / green gas. __________________

February 22nd, 2008, 14:58	#8
CDN_Stalker Official ASC Bladesmith Trader rating Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Ottawa, Ont.	No, somewhere there is some info showing propane is a bit more psi than green gas, and I think it was backed up with chrony results. Maybe the stink gives the BBs a bit more poop? __________________ STKR Knives http://www.facebook.com/#!/pages/STK...17036668380871

February 22nd, 2008, 15:27	#9
Crunchmeister Trader rating Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: In your bedroom going though your underwear drawer	I'd have to find the gas comparison chart, but I seem to remember that the numbers you gave of 20-30 psi is the difference between CO2 and propane / green gas. I could see green and propane having different pressures because even though they're the same base gase, they do have different additives, but I don't think there'd be that much of a difference. 20-30 psi is a pretty substantial difference. __________________

February 22nd, 2008, 15:56	#10
CDN_Stalker Official ASC Bladesmith Trader rating Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Ottawa, Ont.	Well, yes it is, but notice I said it was a guess at the numbers? Don't recall (nor did I then) the exact numbers, but 20-30 was kinda high, could be more like 10 or something. __________________ STKR Knives http://www.facebook.com/#!/pages/STK...17036668380871

February 22nd, 2008, 16:01	#11
cloves Trader rating Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Charlottetown, PEI	either way, green gass or propane has too low a psi for this mac 11 though you think?? __________________ Inside me is a thin woman, screaming to get out. But I can usually shut the btch up with chocolate.*

February 22nd, 2008, 16:11	#12
CDN_Stalker Official ASC Bladesmith Trader rating Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Ottawa, Ont.	Only two ways to find out, try it or search out the info. I've never heard of that gun before, not even on here, so chances are few will have any info to give. Try the gas discussion section on www.airsoftretreat.com for better info (and MUCH more people there too). __________________ STKR Knives http://www.facebook.com/#!/pages/STK...17036668380871

February 22nd, 2008, 20:18	#13
cloves Trader rating Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Charlottetown, PEI	haven't heard of the gun I have??? weird check this thread __________________ Inside me is a thin woman, screaming to get out. But I can usually shut the btch up with chocolate.*

February 22nd, 2008, 21:01	#14
CDN_Stalker Official ASC Bladesmith Trader rating Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Ottawa, Ont.	Nope. I have fired a CO2 powered mini Uzi though, and holy freaking recoil and rate of fire on the thing!!! Is like hugging a jackhammer while it's running! Besides, I've been around airsoft for almost 5 years now, and all the clones and weird brands are new to me, they have really only been popping up the past couple years and haven't made a breakthrough to me (or most others) til a year and a bit ago. __________________ STKR Knives http://www.facebook.com/#!/pages/STK...17036668380871 Last edited by CDN_Stalker; February 22nd, 2008 at 21:05..

February 22nd, 2008, 21:41	#15
Uziguy Banned Trader rating Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Barrie	I also own the Tac. Force M11 (Great gun) If those green mags will fit in the gun then they should work the same as the co2 mags that come with the gun. The Tac. Force gun uses the Maruzen blowback system and the Co2 mags that they come with are regulated (stock co2 is like 800 psi). They may be regulated down to 110-120psi which is what green/propane is. I wouldnt hesitate on trying it out if I were you (if your sure that they will fit). Its kind of the same concept as the WE's (Hi-Capa's) that can either use green or the co2 mags. Your fps,rof and recoil will all go down slightly but not enough to not make it worth while in the long run. Plus the mags that come with the Tac Force are hideous. And if this green mag will work in the M11 then it will also work in the Crosman Micro Uzi ('cause the Crosman and Tac. Force mags are identical) I own both guns, so I know. I might do this myself someday....

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