Madbull Noveske KX3

[rockafella]

Hey guys, I just recived my Madbull Noveske KX3 flash supressor (sound amplifier).



My first impression is "wow!" this thing looks aweseme! real metal, detailed down to the fire breathing pig and autographed by John Noveske himself. I pulled afew pics of the actual KX3 off the Noveske site and the resemblance is impecable. Next I went ahead and removed the O ring (which is suppesed to give the metal punching sound) next I adjested the cones so that the holes are fully lined up in the "open position" (according to the site this is the loudest setting). NExt i skrewed it onto my TM M4, loaded up my mag and fired a few rounds, however this is where I'm a bit disapointed. I don't notce any considerable sound amplification nor the "metal punching noise". Mybe I did'nt intall it properly? Anyway I'm looking for any feedback from anyone with experience with these. thx.



Info about the actual KX3

Recently, John Noveske of Noveske Rifleworks LLC introduced a new flash suppressor for the M4 family of firearms. This new flash suppressor is specifically targeted at the short barreled M4s i.e. those with 11.5 and 10.4 inch barrels. One problem M4s with these short barrels face is increased recoil which in turn causes controllability problems. That’s where John Noveske’s new flash suppressors come into play.
Noveske originally took an AK-74 muzzle brake and adapted it to the M4. This first model was the KFH. What it does is simple; it redirects the recoil forwards instead of the natural direction of upwards. The gases expended when a round is fired is blasted forward which in turn pushes the rifle back into the shoulder which allows the firer greater control. The KX3 is the latest version of this wonder flash suppressor. Commonly known as a ‘Krinkov’ flash suppressor, these have gained a lot of popularity with short barreled M4 users all over the world.

And now, the replica makers have jumped onto the bandwagon with King Arms releasing all the current versions of the Noveske flash hider available in the market. These come in steel or aluminum, clockwise or counter-clockwise twisting. The one in this review is the aluminum (thus lightweight), counter-clockwise twisting KX3 for my M4 Commando (11.5 inch barrel).


Supercool flaming pig!

The Product
Seeing as there’s no recoil at all in airsoft AEGs, what possible use would a Krinkov be you say? Well, half of airsoft is about getting a particular ‘look’, and for me, getting a ‘look’ is almost as important as a reliable gun. So needless to say, I didn’t hesitate to plonk down my cash for one.

The Krinkov is bigger than a typical flash hider. It’s almost twice the diameter and twice as long. It’s all black and is very matt which I like. Since it’s the lightweight version, it’s also very light. The normal version is made of steel while this one is aluminum. One side of the KX3 is an outline of a pig spewing flames from its mouth. Now who wouldn’t think that’s cool? That alone sold me on the KX3. On the opposite side of the KX3 are the trademarks ‘Noveske KX3 #00001 Patent Pending’. On real KX3s it's a running serial number. The tip of the KX3 has a groove with a black piping running through it. Also designed into the tip of the KX3 are two cut grooves, opposite of each other, aligned with the markings. It seems that on real KX3s, these grooves do not align with the markings, although they are still opposite of each other.

The way it’s designed, the muzzle opening of the KX3 is much bigger than a typical flash hider. The opening is approximately 27mm. King Arms has also replicated the inside of the real deal KX3; the replica's muzzle funnels down to the 14mm thread. This adds a bit of a depth effect to the inside of the Krinkov.

[jerryliang2k]

They're supposed to work well with short barreled guns. Your m14 is probably not a good candidate for this accessory.

Mount it on an M4 or MP5.

[hattrick]

Originally Posted by rockafella

NExt i skrewed it onto my TM M4

lol jerry

[rockafella]

Ok, is it just me or does the before and after sound exactly the same?

YouTube - Noveske KX3 Airsoft edition by MadBull

[damage]

Those NOVASKE Flashider works well with a Metal piston head, piston and cylinder head which is really not recommended if you are using Ver.2 gearbox. Add a crater cut inner barrel and your gun will be intimidatingly loud.

[shadow_matter]

Originally Posted by rockafella

Ok, is it just me or does the before and after sound exactly the same?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rkOGukl7SKc

I think that in that video at least, the Noveske added more of an echo to the sound which makes the initial 'pop' seem to last longer and have more of a ballsy amount of bass to it. I don't believe that it actually changed the sound of the AEG, just amplified it; kind of like shouting in a big empty room, your voice seems louder than it is, but it's still is identifiably your own voice.

If my highschool Physics serve me correctly (it's been a while); if the pipe has a larger diameter, it allows more distance for the sound waves to travel within the pipe itself. This in turn flattens and elongates the sound wave, lowering the pitch. The cones obsioubly act as a functional muffler of sorts, directing the path of the outflowing air to create whichever desired effect. By all means correct me on this if need be.

[rockafella]

Originally Posted by shadow_matter

I think that in that video at least, the Noveske added more of an echo to the sound which makes the initial 'pop' seem to last longer and have more of a ballsy amount of bass to it. I don't believe that it actually changed the sound of the AEG, just amplified it; kind of like shouting in a big empty room, your voice seems louder than it is, but it's still is identifiably your own voice.

Hmm, I did'nt actually catch any deaper sound. the camera man also moved closer to the muzzle when he added the KX3, which may have had some effect to the sound recording.
I would imagine the cones withing the Kx3 act as some sort of "megaphone" but what I'm not sure of is why haveing the holes within line up would make it loader than if it was in the closed position where there would be no sound escapeing? I don't know. I'd be interesting to hear what someone who has had some first hand experience with this has to say.

[wey ferro]

kingarms ones actually give your gun a louder pop sound

[leblanc74]

that would look nice on my rk104

[rockafella]

Originally Posted by wey ferro

kingarms ones actually give your gun a louder pop sound

Have you tried both types? Is this due to a difrent design or just different dimensions?

[Drake]

I have a MadBull KX3 (with the O-ring out) and it definitely gives a deeper sound; more of a bang instead of a pop. I dunno that it's "louder" but it's probably more directed (maybe try it by having someone shoot towards you from a distance, with and without).

Also, from the design of it, I'd say make sure your inner barrel "ends" near the muzzle (threaded) but doesn't go past it and into the KX3; you really need to get the air coming out right inside the space behind the cones.

[wey ferro]

Originally Posted by rockafella

Have you tried both types? Is this due to a difrent design or just different dimensions?

i havent but the design is different. the ka is better and you can get steel ones. the cone inside is just smooth. it makes the gun sound so much louder and sounds way better.

[SINN]

the KA definately sounds better. The madbull website says to close the inner and take out the O-Ring for a louder sound, better "pop". I found the opposite true on my set up. I put the o-ring back in, opened up the cones and it sounds louder..

[rockafella]

Originally Posted by SINN

the KA definately sounds better. The madbull website says to close the inner and take out the O-Ring for a louder sound, better "pop". I found the opposite true on my set up. I put the o-ring back in, opened up the cones and it sounds louder..

Actually, according to the Madbull instructions it says close the cones for the loudest effect, and take the 'O' Ring out for the "metal punching' sound (although I'm not sure what sound they are reffering to.)

Hey SINN, so you think it actually makes a diff?

[Drake]

Okay I just tried it on my MP7, since it's the quietest "AEG" I have (in terms of internal noise); the difference with the KX3 on is night and day. Only have the Madbull one to test, so I dunno how it would fare compared to KA's or PROUD's versions. But unlike that YouTube vid, the sound is totally different and much more pronounced with the KX3 installed.