EH... I *DON'T* think so...

[[Lithium]]

ouch.. someones wallet has a perdy dent in it.

[DuffMan]

I do believe they are more lenient when you're on rotation, not to say that I've ever been in theatre. But from what my buddies tell me, you get more lee-way in what you can wear.

Originally Posted by ArmedPacifist

Depends.


If you are JTF-2 you can do whatever the fuck you want.


The army does allow for some non-issue gear to be worn, but it's mostly things like backpacks, camelbaks and very rarely different load bearing vests.

I know of at least 1 guy who wore the Seals action gear Cadpat Battle vest on exercise without getting written up.

[Kane]

What's involved in "getting written up." Just curious really.

[ert]

I personally wear issue kit except for my Maxpedition Condor now and then, but I have a buddy going on TFA and he's wearing a CIRAS setup as are many of the other guys headed over with him.

[odp]

Tiger Tactical has made copies of the JTF-2 stuff in Marpat.

http://www.tigertactical.com/gallery/Projects

[pugs144]

My buddy got his from an unnamed source and got it for waaay less than that ebay dude.

[Armedpacifist]

Originally Posted by Kane

What's involved in "getting written up." Just curious really.

Money out of your paycheque for a small offense.

[pugs144]

Originally Posted by pugs144

all this is whining is starting to sound like sour grapes because it's out of our price range or unable to get it BACK into Canada.


Before we all get high and mighty, how many non-CF personnel on this forum are in posession of CADPAT? How many pics of people wearing issue CADPAT are in the photo gallery? Anyone ratted them out? Negative.

What, no takers?

[Farmboy]

You would have to have some pretty good pictures to distiguish between issue and non-issue clothing.

[pugs144]

That's a pretty wishy-washy defense but whatever.

Do you really expect me to believe there are no civilians here in posession of issue CADPAT. If they want to wear it, I have no problem with that. But I do find it amusing that this is condoned and yet people get their panties in a bunch and start tattle taleing on PSP and such when they see an eBayer selling elusive JTF-2 kit. You dig?

Something about throwing stones in glass houses and pots calling the kettle black.

[firemachine69]

Most is either:

Fake
or Surplus

Part of the problem: Someone's making an extra buck off DND, while just about everyone else is getting meager salaries.

I love kit and gear. In no way, however, do I condone taking stuff out of the system. My paycheck pays for that!

CADPAT clothing isn't surplused. When a soldier turns in his faded an/or ruined uniforms for exchange the old ones are to be shredded.

Also, DOD is American, DND is Canadian :wink:

[pugs144]

Originally Posted by firemachine69

Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm under the impression he's either:

Sure isn't surplus, and the our DoD is pretty tight on keeping gear in the system!) Until they hit used, non-repairable status, they are deemed a controlled matter (if it's true, of course).

Any CF guys here selling clues? He needs to take his signature to heart and buy one.

You just contradicted yourself. By your statement, even if it is surplus it's still a "controlled item" and you're still not allowed to posess it. So how did it get out of the "system"? FROM SOMEONE LOOKING TO MAKE A BUCK!!

Too late you just condoned it, however involuntarily.

Non-CF making defiinitive statements about CF policy should attach a caveat such as, "IF I RECALL CORRECTLY". To warn us that you may possibly be talking out of your ass.

[Farmboy]

That's a pretty wishy-washy defense but whatever.

Why is my statement wishy-washy?

I have tried to tell if something is issue or aftermarket from pictures and it's very hard if you don't have a good look at the pockets etc.

Off the top of my head I can name 7 dealers including myself that sell CADPAT clothing and gear.

Take four sets of different pants from these dealers and put them on guys in the field, and then take a picture and tell me which pair is the issue ones.

I'm not saying civies don't have issued gear, just that you would have to personally inspect them to find them.

I'm sure as well that if I put my issued kit up for sale on ebay or any forum and showed the labels there would be a few people getting just as cranky.

[Armedpacifist]

Originally Posted by pugs144

That's a pretty wishy-washy defense but whatever.

Do you really expect me to believe there are no civilians here in posession of issue CADPAT. If they want to wear it, I have no problem with that. But I do find it amusing that this is condoned and yet people get their panties in a bunch and start tattle taleing on PSP and such when they see an eBayer selling elusive JTF-2 kit. You dig?

Something about throwing stones in glass houses and pots calling the kettle black.

I agree with you 100 percent.

So I'll go ahead and sell you the clue you were looking for.

Some people really need to grow up, if the guy did something illegal, then he will be caught.

This mob mentality thing is bullshit, grow a brain.

I've seen civies at airsoft games playing in totally CF issue gear not to be sold to civies, do I call the police? Of course not, I just ask them how much they paid for it because I am curious.

Just relax, take a deep breath and try not to take things upon yourself crusader.


I can't believe that some of the people who are selling Cadpat items agree with the original poster, talk about a hypocrite.