Upgrading AEG Performance

Ricochet · February 26th, 2012, 16:59

Like Thunder Cactus said start with a good hop up rubber. It's a good idea to get a good hopup assembly as well. They are one of the cheaper pieces you can buy. It'll help with seal and barrel wobble. Then work backwards into your air nozzle piston, the down towards reinforcing the gear box. Get yourself a solid motor, and a good battery to turn it. Once your internals are solid and reliable look to your spring and barrel. Tightbore won't always help. If you BB's are stable and straight don't change your barrel. Increase your spring to aim for 390 - 400 FPS with 0.2's, but run 0.28's in game. Always use a good qualty BB always.

But a big thing you could do is buy a "reliable out of the box", weapon to begin with. Classic Army, King Arms, ...etc. This way you can take your time and upgrade as you want. By the time you fully upgrade a cheaper gun you will end up spending as much or more anyways. And your gun won't break down on you often with a better quality starter.

L473ncy · February 26th, 2012, 17:36

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Originally Posted by Joshery

It's just a GameFace M4A1... about 330 fps, shoots 200 feet, and it's about 50/50 for metal and plastic. 1.5 inch groupings at 150 feet, but the rof is brutal and the battery only lasts about 3 mags.

ಠ_ಠ

I can't even get 1.5inch groupings at 150 feet with a standard pellet rifle (nothing fancy just a Daisy .177)...

And is that 3 mags from hicaps (~1200BB's) or 3 midcap mags (~350 BB's)?

@ Ricochet, you should qualify that with Classic Army PROLINE not the Gameface/Sportline crap.

Joshery · February 26th, 2012, 23:50

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Originally Posted by kalnaren

1.5" groupings at 150'? Yea, I'm going to call bullshit on that.... especially from a GameFace AEG (Classic Army sportline)

No bull, man. I can post a vid on youtube--once I get a dec camera--if you really want to see.

Joshery · February 26th, 2012, 23:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by L473ncy

ಠ_ಠ

I can't even get 1.5inch groupings at 150 feet with a standard pellet rifle (nothing fancy just a Daisy .177)...

And is that 3 mags from hicaps (~1200BB's) or 3 midcap mags (~350 BB's)?

@ Ricochet, you should qualify that with Classic Army PROLINE not the Gameface/Sportline crap.

Just 350 round mags.

THe_Silencer · February 27th, 2012, 00:43

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Originally Posted by Joshery

No bull, man. I can post a vid on youtube--once I get a dec camera--if you really want to see.

Don't even bother getting a better camera, use your phone! We all just HAVE to see this!

kalnaren · February 27th, 2012, 06:48

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joshery

No bull, man. I can post a vid on youtube--once I get a dec camera--if you really want to see.

You do know how far 150' is, right?

JonsM4 · February 27th, 2012, 08:42

150cm is more like it.

Ricochet · February 27th, 2012, 10:50

Gun vice, dead calm, properly sighted, perfectly tuned and upgraded, high end well balanced and double polished BBs..........Good luck!

kalnaren · February 27th, 2012, 13:39

Definitely not from a Classic Army sportline....

Joshery · February 27th, 2012, 13:59

Yes, I know how far 150 feet is.

Stealth · February 27th, 2012, 14:12

Quote:

Originally Posted by suzenonest

Since this topic has already been started, I'll post my quick question in here lol.

I just received my VFC E Series Mark 12 Mod 0. Its shooting consistently at 436-438 fps w/ 0.25g bb's. I would also like to upgrade this to achieve max range and accuracy. ROF not important as I will be mainly using semi auto.

For anyone with experience with this brand of gun and setup, what upgrades would you install?

I'm already looking at new hop up buckings, inner barrels and piston heads. I dont know what brand of parts works best with VFC tho. Probably gonna order off airsoftparts or ehobby

@jcotter, what brand of parts worked best with your VFC?

I also noticed the mag that came with the gun wobbled in the magwell. Any other brand of mags that fits securely in the magwell?

What the fuck? It shoots 430fps + on .25g BBs (480fps .2g equivalent) and you want to upgrade it even more? Let me know what game you're going to so I won't be there.

Downgrade the spring and while you're at it, replace the piston and do a general maintenance check on it (shim, grease, AoE, compression). I have a non-E-series VFC and the piston on it is useable but not fantastic for high power.

The other bases have already been covered. I've had great success with an R-hop, Madbull barrel, and Modify hop-up chamber.

Ricochet · February 27th, 2012, 14:22

It's not uncommon for guns shooting 420-470 stock due to our laws. But yes, you'll have better luck if you downgrade your spring first.

ThunderCactus · February 27th, 2012, 14:40

or switch to .43g and play with really hardcore people lol

suzenonest · February 27th, 2012, 14:48

I never said anything about upgrading the spring, i know it alrdy shoots too hot. I'll be installing the replacement spring that came with it once I do work on the mechbox. I was just more concerned about compression upgrades/ brand compatibility

kalnaren · March 4th, 2012, 14:06

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joshery

No bull, man. I can post a vid on youtube--once I get a dec camera--if you really want to see.

Still waiting for the footage of this hyper accurate AEG...

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February 26th, 2012, 16:59	#16
Ricochet How much sand CAN you fit in your vagina!? Trader rating Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: North Delta, BC (Greater Vancouver)	Like Thunder Cactus said start with a good hop up rubber. It's a good idea to get a good hopup assembly as well. They are one of the cheaper pieces you can buy. It'll help with seal and barrel wobble. Then work backwards into your air nozzle piston, the down towards reinforcing the gear box. Get yourself a solid motor, and a good battery to turn it. Once your internals are solid and reliable look to your spring and barrel. Tightbore won't always help. If you BB's are stable and straight don't change your barrel. Increase your spring to aim for 390 - 400 FPS with 0.2's, but run 0.28's in game. Always use a good qualty BB always. But a big thing you could do is buy a "reliable out of the box", weapon to begin with. Classic Army, King Arms, ...etc. This way you can take your time and upgrade as you want. By the time you fully upgrade a cheaper gun you will end up spending as much or more anyways. And your gun won't break down on you often with a better quality starter. __________________ I have developed a new sport called Airhard. Pretty much the same as Airsoft, except you have to maintain an erection...

February 27th, 2012, 08:42	#22
JonsM4 Trader rating Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: What's my 20?	150cm is more like it. __________________ King Arms M4A1 Colt : ICS M4 C-15 : KJW G23

February 27th, 2012, 10:50	#23
Ricochet How much sand CAN you fit in your vagina!? Trader rating Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: North Delta, BC (Greater Vancouver)	Gun vice, dead calm, properly sighted, perfectly tuned and upgraded, high end well balanced and double polished BBs..........Good luck! __________________ I have developed a new sport called Airhard. Pretty much the same as Airsoft, except you have to maintain an erection...

February 27th, 2012, 13:59	#25
Joshery Trader rating Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Outlook, Saskatchewan	Yes, I know how far 150 feet is.

February 27th, 2012, 14:22	#27
Ricochet How much sand CAN you fit in your vagina!? Trader rating Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: North Delta, BC (Greater Vancouver)	It's not uncommon for guns shooting 420-470 stock due to our laws. But yes, you'll have better luck if you downgrade your spring first. __________________ I have developed a new sport called Airhard. Pretty much the same as Airsoft, except you have to maintain an erection...

February 27th, 2012, 14:40	#28
ThunderCactus Not Eye Safe, Pretty Boy Maximus on the field take his picture! Trader rating Join Date: Feb 2007	or switch to .43g and play with really hardcore people lol

February 27th, 2012, 14:48	#29
suzenonest Trader rating Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Hamilton, ON	I never said anything about upgrading the spring, i know it alrdy shoots too hot. I'll be installing the replacement spring that came with it once I do work on the mechbox. I was just more concerned about compression upgrades/ brand compatibility

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