Airsoft Canada - View Single Post - WHat does a gearbox require in order to take a lipo?

TriChrome · September 29th, 2008, 14:19

I am not trying to question everybodies experience with Li-Poly's, I've used them in 4 guns myself (in multiple configurations), each shooting from 380-450 FPS with .2's at 24-30 RPS, and didn't have any major problems, but you can't argue that there's inherent dangers in using them. I'm moreso arguing the fact that somebody new to AEG's shouldn't be using them, and with you saying you've used them in 6 different guns with no problems may lead somebody new to the sport to jump right into using them in their gun without knowing anything about them, and that's not something any Airsmith I know (myself included) would advise.

After the safety aspect, there's the problem with these batteries shortening the life of the gun. I'm glad your KWA has been fine for 10,000+ rounds, but that's not any benchmark on realibility whatsoever. I admit I can be a little trigger happy, but I can go through 10,000 BB's during a single 8-hour scenario, and stock TM's can last for hundreds of thousands of rounds.

Now I don't know which type of Li-Poly's you've been using, and I'm not here to nitpick the 6 guns you've used them in, but if the guns are shooting at 25+ RPS (as they should be in a healthy setup, if not see those bottlenecks I mentioned above), you run into many other problems that sub-20 RPS (using 9.6v and 8.4v batteries) guns don't have. Problems like the switch assembly corroding from the constant high-voltage arcing. Motors burnning out much sooner than they should. Stripping pistons from the fast ROF (especially when you don't mod the piston like should be done for that fast ROF). Having a simply BB jam break expensive gearbox parts because it took you a half second to notice something went wrong and your gun shot a lot more damaging shots in that time period because of the higher ROF. The list goes on and on.

September 29th, 2008, 14:19	#7
TriChrome Trader rating Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: New Jersey, USA	I am not trying to question everybodies experience with Li-Poly's, I've used them in 4 guns myself (in multiple configurations), each shooting from 380-450 FPS with .2's at 24-30 RPS, and didn't have any major problems, but you can't argue that there's inherent dangers in using them. I'm moreso arguing the fact that somebody new to AEG's shouldn't be using them, and with you saying you've used them in 6 different guns with no problems may lead somebody new to the sport to jump right into using them in their gun without knowing anything about them, and that's not something any Airsmith I know (myself included) would advise. After the safety aspect, there's the problem with these batteries shortening the life of the gun. I'm glad your KWA has been fine for 10,000+ rounds, but that's not any benchmark on realibility whatsoever. I admit I can be a little trigger happy, but I can go through 10,000 BB's during a single 8-hour scenario, and stock TM's can last for hundreds of thousands of rounds. Now I don't know which type of Li-Poly's you've been using, and I'm not here to nitpick the 6 guns you've used them in, but if the guns are shooting at 25+ RPS (as they should be in a healthy setup, if not see those bottlenecks I mentioned above), you run into many other problems that sub-20 RPS (using 9.6v and 8.4v batteries) guns don't have. Problems like the switch assembly corroding from the constant high-voltage arcing. Motors burnning out much sooner than they should. Stripping pistons from the fast ROF (especially when you don't mod the piston like should be done for that fast ROF). Having a simply BB jam break expensive gearbox parts because it took you a half second to notice something went wrong and your gun shot a lot more damaging shots in that time period because of the higher ROF. The list goes on and on.