Feds networking?
 

Hi all.

If I was to make a airsoft gun related purchase, would this information be cross-linked with other informations, at a federal database level? If it was done with Paypal?

Would this show up on credit reports, banking information, fishing licence info, etc.

Is there a database that has all one's info, and how can one access this info, to check up on one's own file?

Just a little spooked, and don't want to be "Flagged" with "gun-labels", that migh also affect travelling accross borders.

If you aren't doing anything illegal you have nothing to worry about.

Nothing illegal. And keep in mind I have never had nor touch a real firearm.

This is why I ask: I just bought two magazines for the USP. I mmissed the delivery (they didn't knock), so had to go to purolater for pick-up. The attendant entered my info into her computer, and then had an odd facial expression (triggered the uh-oh-sense in me). Then she went and got the package...all cool...my new mags.

The next day, I went to log into my bank to check the ballance. Denied.
Went to do it through the phone. Denied.
Talked to the rep on the phone, they typed in my info, then all of a sudden no more help. She said I had to go into my branch.

Went into my branch, said my my accesses have been denied. She said failed log ons to my acount have triggered it to deny all access. I have not messed up any log-on attemps lately.

Then she asked me if I had my gun permit, or firearms permit, ACUF or something like that (can't remember). I'm thinking what the hell this has to do with me wanting to see how much money I had (need groceries). My account info is all messed up she said.

Then the previous weird experiences the day before entered my head.

Now I have an appointment with bank to sort out my info. I have to go in with all kinds of documents (all gonvernment linked I might add), to set things straight.

My spidey-sense says don't go in.

Could this be messed up from a hacker trying to get in my bank, a federally trying to access acount info because of the airsoft mag purchase?

Again....Spooked

Where did you buy your mags from?

007

Its possible you have a virus on your pc that monitors your actions/keystrokes or something of the like. Have you run a diagnostic scan witha reputable scanner? Do you even have one?

@ Rock 'N' Roll

Just wiped my hardrive today, incase. But I've heard if the hack was by the federallys, their stuff stays in the computer. I have not the computer prowess, to confirm.

@ Donster. I'm no baddie. I got in a bad fight with a dude years ago, and the system made me wash dishes for a summer, but no man, I fly by the book.

I'll up tonight waiting though....

Most likely a virus keylogger etc. Sounds like someone was trying to access your bank accounts and the bank has locked things down to safeguard your money.

It's an inconvenience I know, but it beats having empty bank accounts. I've previously had my credit card cancelled while on vacation back in Alberta because I topped up my rental car w/ gas, then went to Home Depot (needed supplies to help folks put up fence) and then to the grocery store (bbq that night). I had forgotten my cellphone in a date's car after the first date (I insist to this day it wasn't on purpose to get a second date, but we're engaged now so who am I to argue?) so the CC company couldn't get ahold of me, then they cancelled the card.

When I called in the rep explained to me that "when someone steals a credit card, the first three places they most likely purchase items at are grocery stores, home improvement stores, and fill up on gas"...

All you should have to do is show them two pieces of govn't ID and they'll give you your access back.

Might not work if it's FUD (Fully UnDetectable). Virus scans will usually take out most but even good ones can get tricked by FUD Viruses, usually these are small time guys not big ones that are well known who are infecting millions of machines.

If you were ordering from somewhere like the US and the seller wrote something like "Pistol Magazines" then yeah that might be cause for alarm but if it's local there shouldn't be anything to worry about.

Most likely you had your shit cloned if you use debit in shady places or there's a RAT (Remote Access Trojan)/FUD Keylogger.

Also try and pinpoint the exact IP of the attempted logins. If it was from your computer then it's probably a RAT but if it's from a different IP then it's either someone cloned your bank details/card or you have a Keylogger.

Protect yourself. PUT A FRAUD ALERT ON YOUR ACCOUNTS. This should prevent people from signing up for CC's/Mortgages/Line of Credit etc. or requesting new SIN's under your name.

PS: Just because it's "the feds" doesn't mean that they have the poweress to keep stuff you have on the computer. They probably can and Virus makers in the wild sometimes do too by writing stuff to places like the MBR. If the virus persists I think the only way to remove it is to destroy the MBR (Master Boot Record) and "shred the disk" by writing garbage data everywhere and then reinstalling.

Second post to the OP because I didn't see your last one: You are very paranoid about the govn't spying on you. Unless you have something to hide don't worry about it - they have a hard enough time catching real terrorists/online criminals/kiddy porn barons that I highly doubt they are zeroing in on your location right now, calling in the swat team over two USP mags.

That's what the bank clerk said the appointment is for. Cool.

Nothing to hide hear. I'm glad the Feds are watching. I feel safer.

I've always wished I could have been a Fed, Police, Swat, Special ops, PMC dude, etc. But I'm physically "Wee", and feeling old and unfit. I couln't take down anything bigger than a squirel. And those things are fast!

The only way I can fufill those desires, is airsoft roll-playing (currently saving to get kits like mad, to come out and play).

[QUOTE=L473ncy;1125951] Most likely you had your shit cloned if you use debit in shady places or there's a RAT (Remote Access Trojan)/FUD Keylogger.

Also try and pinpoint the exact IP of the attempted logins. If it was from your computer then it's probably a RAT but if it's from a different IP then it's either someone cloned your bank details/card or you have a Keylogger. QUOTE]

I'll get that info from the bank tomorrow.

Thanx all

The feds don't do anything like that to innocent people. I speak from experience. There is no Canadian conspiracy. The feds are good people.

If you're a known (ie. drug dealer, smuggler, etc) or "suspected with just cause" criminal, then a warrant can get the feds just about anywhere, and rightly so. Some Americans claim they are having their brain waves monitored. Hmmm.

Pffft. Tin-foil helmet. ;)

Electroencephalography. They could probably make a receiver tuned to the frequencies. Ultimate way to control a mech. and / or mech army.

Yeeeaaaaaaaah.....don't be so paranoid.

Papabois? are you from the Caribbean? your username is a folklore character from the islands

oh and don't be so damned paranoid, seriously they don't have time to bother with every person that buys mags, especially in country.

Ya man. Canadian/Bajan. I actually use the folklore with one of my enterprises. "Obeah Boat Works". Lots of goods named after summeh deh witches. LOL. I tink my granmudda worked obeah. Now I laffin hard yuh.

I'm not being paranoid about the feds, it's my bankinfo that's all. (Although paranoia keeps one sharp and ready. Another perspective-lable for gut feelings perhaps?....). ;)

lol.. Hope everything works out for you, but reading this thread and seeing your location I couldnt help but wonder if you are in the south end of whitby near the harbour. :)

good luck!

Nah man. I stay away from that part of town, except when doing anything to with sail boats.

I originally moved here to work at a boat company down in that part. Too Ghetto.
No offence to any, and I'm no royal-blood; but dam, enough of the Beverly hill's most wanted / J-roc-types.

Tell that to those people who got charged with assault when they're doing self defense where the U.S. fed will say that's totally fine.

Back to topic.
USP magazine regardless if its for .45ACP/.40S&W or 9mm it is legal to own unless it holds more than 10 rounds (centerfire) you don't need license for those. If you are talking about airsoft, there's no reason it would be.

lol cool man, I'm Trini, good to meet you, just talk to your bank and let them know your concerns etc. and all should be fine, if you lose money you just fill out a form/affidavit and you will get it all back.

To the O.P. :

Go here and get one of their products, I have the Suite on a U3 Sandisk and use it all the time......eliminates password memorization and one click sign-on circumvents key-logging.

http://www.protecteer.com/asp/home.asp

Wipe the drive to be sure.

I know how you are feeling man. I have had money stolen from my bank account twice in the last month. I dont feel like using my debit card anywhere anymore...

Well, no 3:00am suprise. :)

I hope my taxes aren't paying Feds to watch a dude buying two USP mags...

Yeah seriously.

Papabois, what you're suggesting in your earlier post detailing the events that occured (and you subsequent concerns), the amount of resources that requires is disproportionate for two entirely legal mags. It's not like you were trying to import a 40' ocean container of black guns or something.

If it can put your mind at ease, over the course of the past decade I've purchased and imported a wide range of parts and accessories: barrels, handguards, grips, stocks, scopes, mags, etc. Some parts were real steel. About 1/3 of them were opened up by CBSA, contents unpackaged, inspected, then haphazardly stuffed back into the box, taped up and sent to me with a handling fee. :P

Is there a note about me in a computer somewhere? Maybe. The same way banks and tech support places have little notes on file. But this isn't Nazi Germany or anything, the Gestapo or KGB aren't watching me and tapping my phone in the hopes I'll mess up and they can swoop in and take me away for interrogation.

As others mentioned, you might have something to worry about because something happened to make the bank block access to your account. But whatever it is it has nothing to do with those USP mags.

Plus its not like the girl at the post office had any idea what was in the package to begin with.

For situations like that you should be blaming the laws, not the people applying those laws.

I think the breech was some shady new staff, at one of my composite suppliers.
I usually use my business cash acount, but this time (first time) I used debit. The bank clerk said that the attempts at my account, were on that day.

Questions about debit monkey-ing, IP address info from the monkey-ing, and why they asked if I had a firearm permit will be asked today. Have the appointment @ 11:00.

I really want to know why the bank clerk asked about gun info. and / or a fishing licence I had in '94. Some odd questions to ask somewhen, when they just want to know their bank ballance, and why their web /phone access was denied.

I can see the next time when I go in for some credit advice, the'll ask my sexual preferance, or if I like eggplant. LOL.

A way to confirm that you are really... you?

All sorted out.

I am who I am, and have a new card / log-in data.

It was a breech from my composite supplier, and he has been notified about possible fraudulent ongoings, while he is out of the shop.

The gun thing...I actually had an F.A.C. 20-years ago, that I had forgot about. That's why when she aked me, I'm like, "Gun". Only ever had airsofts.
Was into fishing as a youth, and buddies always saying, "Get an FAC, we'll hunt too". Never did, so never paid it any mind.

It was just weird coincidence (or was it ;) ) with mag purchase, and similar topic'ed questions.