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Eclipse1 June 18th, 2009 10:01

Bad mag effects?
 
i was wondering if a magazine of poor quality could affect fps and accuracy. i have a broxa, and i know the mag is a piece of crap, but i would like to know what exactly does a crap mag do, in terms of negative effects on the performance of a gun. thanks a lot

oh, and i have already purchased a jg full metal 200 round high cap

Thenooblord June 18th, 2009 10:02

feeds poorly,

Crunchmeister June 18th, 2009 10:04

All a shitty mag will do is affect the feeding reliability. It has no effect on accuracy or velocity. Accuracy will be affected by the hopup and barrel. Velocity will be affected by the mechbox internals (air seal components, spring, and spring guide).

Eclipse1 June 18th, 2009 10:08

ok, cuz it seemed that the gun fired extremely well(accuratly and reliably) when the mag was full of bbs and fully wound, compared to when it was next to empy

L473ncy June 18th, 2009 11:11

That's because of the spring. I have the same problem with my mags (last 3-4 BB's don't feed in). The only way you'll ever get all your BB's to feed in is if you have something "gravity fed" (such as a P90).

bentsky June 18th, 2009 15:18

bad mag's feed poorly, so they cause dry fire which is really bad for your gun.

Grudge June 18th, 2009 22:37

Get rid of the hi cap, get some smaller mags and make sure that you lube them then fill them competely then empty and repeat. I have a Broxa and it works best with the lower capacity mags that are taken care of.

Steven June 18th, 2009 22:39

Dry-firing is very bad.

EDIT: Non-factual comment, edited.

The Saint June 18th, 2009 22:53

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steven (Post 1009848)
Dry-firing is not really "bad" for your gun, it's jsut not good for it. :D

One of our resident engineers, MadMax, would strongly disagree with that statement. His experience is that dry firing places a significantly higher amount of stress on the mechbox than firing a loaded gun. So it is "bad" for the gun.

Steven June 18th, 2009 22:54

Oh ok, i stand corrected. Thank-you, now i know too.

gmds44 June 18th, 2009 22:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steven (Post 1009863)
Oh ok, i stand corrected. Thank-you, now i know too.

Note that this does not apply "that much" to TM airsoft guns. This is due to the significally weaker spring.

Steven June 18th, 2009 23:03

But it does still in fact put unnessacary stress on the Mech-box, no?

Eclipse1 June 19th, 2009 13:16

well, i got a jg 200 round high cap, hope that works well. also, i was considering a sorbo pad for the piston head, worth it?

Steven June 19th, 2009 14:05

Maybe in the future, but since these guns are TM compatible, well at least the kraken is, dont fix anything. My moto : Dont fix anything until it breaks.

Danke June 19th, 2009 14:17

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Saint (Post 1009858)
One of our resident engineers, MadMax, would strongly disagree with that statement. His experience is that dry firing places a significantly higher amount of stress on the mechbox than firing a loaded gun. So it is "bad" for the gun.

What kind of dry firing are we talking about here, one or two shots after an empty mag, or to ease springs, or sitting on the couch and playing along with Blackhawk Down?

kalnaren June 19th, 2009 18:37

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danke (Post 1010173)
What kind of dry firing are we talking about here, one or two shots after an empty mag, or to ease springs, or sitting on the couch and playing along with Blackhawk Down?

If it's the test I'm thinking of, I think the conclusion was that a couple of dry fires at the end of an empty mag will not have noticable detrimental effects, but repeated dry firing causes undo wear and strain.

AngelusNex June 19th, 2009 18:48

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danke (Post 1010173)
What kind of dry firing are we talking about here, one or two shots after an empty mag, or to ease springs, or sitting on the couch and playing along with Blackhawk Down?

both are bad for gun, but one or 2 shots after your done shooting is nothing really, think of it this way, every dry fire shot is as much damage as 100 regular shots. so a shot or 2 to relieve spring tension is no more that shooting the gun loaded for awhile, dry firing all night while chairsofting will be a years worth of use in damage in one night.

Eclipse1 June 20th, 2009 11:31

so it can really ruin the gun... why would anyone sit there dry firing their gun? and yes, the broxa is 100% pro part upgradable, i was considering a sorbo pad as sort of preventative maintenace

kalnaren June 20th, 2009 11:55

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eclipse1 (Post 1010588)
the broxa is 100% pro part upgradable

Well, the tolerances are off in a few places, so not all parts will fit perfectly.

Eclipse1 June 20th, 2009 20:25

any way to make sure they will b4 i buy em?

Love June 21st, 2009 19:47

If buying them online, email the company and ask if the part is compatible with your Aftermath Broxa.

If buying locally, bring your gun and in see if it fits and works. Or ask the clerk at the store.

Or... just search the forums here.

AngelusNex June 21st, 2009 21:11

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lythinca (Post 1011289)
If buying them online, email the company and ask if the part is compatible with your Aftermath Broxa.

they'll more than likely not know or say it works to make the sale.


Quote:

If buying locally, bring your gun and in see if it fits and works. Or ask the clerk at the store.

Or... just search the forums here.
so your saying people should let you install internal parts into your gun and then test them (makeing them used) before paying?

Love June 21st, 2009 23:16

Hes talking about a mag. A mag isnt internal. A mag is external. Therefore, he could easily just pop the mag in and see if it fits.

AngelusNex June 22nd, 2009 08:53

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lythinca (Post 1011470)
Hes talking about a mag. A mag isnt internal. A mag is external. Therefore, he could easily just pop the mag in and see if it fits.

read through the thread, at this point the topic is internal parts.


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