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GeneralMatt November 7th, 2008 17:08

Lee Enfield No 4
 
Got a question for you all. If I was to do a conversion, with the end product hopefully being a Lee Enfield, which would be the best gun to do it off of? Would a M14 work for it like the M14 does for the Garand? Or would it need some other guns mechanism?

Brian McIlmoyle November 7th, 2008 17:12

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Originally Posted by GeneralMatt (Post 856782)
Got a question for you all. If I was to do a conversion, with the end product hopefully being a Lee Enfield, which would be the best gun to do it off of? Would a M14 work for it like the M14 does for the Garand? Or would it need some other guns mechanism?

you would need to start off with a bolt action rifle .. seeing as the Lee Enfield is a bolt action weapon.

Krieg November 7th, 2008 19:35

This guy converted a VSR-10.

Looks decent.

http://ww2aa.proboards45.com/index.c...ay&thread=2605

MrEvolution November 7th, 2008 20:03

Why did I just hear the gears in Yorkies brain start to turn?

Thats a really nice mod to that gun.

GeneralMatt November 7th, 2008 21:21

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Originally Posted by Krieg (Post 856888)
This guy converted a VSR-10.

Looks decent.

http://ww2aa.proboards45.com/index.c...ay&thread=2605

Indeed! That is also MUCH more in my price range, thanks.

Thanks all for your comments also!

Yorkie November 8th, 2008 08:32

Thing is with the one in the link, while it certainly looks the business, it's supposed to be a No1 mk 3, if you're looking for WW2 it would need to be a No.4 mk 1. A lot of the older No1's were used by the Home Guard (Dad's Army). If there are any other Brits out there who'll get that. 'DON'T PANIC!' if you don't get it though. ;)

Maybe I'm a bit pickier though. I managed to find a No4 Mk1 stock with all the fittings on eBay a while back, they cost me about $150 if memory serves. There's a bit of whittling needed but the guts of the VSR-10 already fit reasonably well, I will need to make a mock up of the receiver and figure out a way of securing the VSR-10 magazine within the stock and do a bit of hogging where the hop up fits. I also need to make a barrel reducer into the end of the VSR-10 barrel so the front sight fits properly.

It's not a lot to do, but it will be time consuming, hopefully I'll get through it this winter, depends on the honey-do list.

GeneralMatt November 8th, 2008 09:19

Yes, I was somewhat hoping I could find a stock of my own, I found out on Sunday that the dad of a friend of mine has a WWII one for hunting, and he said quite a few people around here have them. So its an outside shot I might pick up a broken one or something.
Ebay is a good idea also, I will have to look there.

GeneralMatt November 8th, 2008 09:19

Hmm, not sure why it double posted....

Krieg November 8th, 2008 10:20

Glynn, look on page 3 of the thread I shoved :)

baker_Jeff November 8th, 2008 11:53

I am using one of these as my base:

http://capitalairsoft.ca/store/index...products_id=32

Shell ejecting Enfield? Yes please!

GeneralMatt November 8th, 2008 12:21

Very interesting, thanks for posting that. I guess once I get age verified (Who knows when that will be, #18 comes right in the middle of the Christmas season, or maybe we just start early in my family :P), I will look around. I am on a fairly tight budget though, so that limits things, especially considering I might need to use my small pile of cash for something not-so-fun as an airsoft-gun...

Lotsa hope though, this is much cheaper it seems, that it would be to buy a M14 and convert it to a Garand (And I would much rather an Enfield anyways.)

GeneralMatt November 8th, 2008 12:34

Darn. Two nice Lee Enfield Stocks for 50 USD on Ebay but "we can not mail outside of the USA as per E Bay rules - Please do not ask. "
Maybe there will be something on Ebay.ca.

scheer November 8th, 2008 13:50

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Originally Posted by GeneralMatt (Post 857163)
Darn. Two nice Lee Enfield Stocks for 50 USD on Ebay but "we can not mail outside of the USA as per E Bay rules - Please do not ask. "

That's balls, I've bought part by part, all the furniture for a No.4, so just shop around on ebay.com ask anyone who doesn't specifically state that they won't ship abroad.

My initial plan was to use the Dboys 98k but I dropped that when I realised the problems involved. The 'Shoot'n'Scoot' scratch builds that I should hopefully get a better look at tomorrow (WW2 theme game at SnS's site)
uses APS internals.

GeneralMatt November 8th, 2008 15:25

Okay thanks, I guess since I am still new at this, I can get easily discouraged. Got to keep the chin up I guess.

scheer November 8th, 2008 15:36

The balls were aimed at the seller not you ;) Like I say most of the people I've dealt with on ebay.com are good folks and very helpful, you just need to be patient and ask around.

I now have everything for the No.4 I can get, including the magazine which are the most difficult to source, I only need the internals. I'm currently aiming on using a gas gun, that way I don't have to cut a space for the magazines to slot in. But then it comes with all the problems of a gas gun & I'll have to use the magazine as a template to make fake mags to stick to the bottom of the gas mags so it's swings & round abouts. My one will (fingers crossed) be better aesthetically at the expense of practicality & possibly performance but it comes down to what you're wanting.

Yorkie November 8th, 2008 16:23

If it's parts you want, these guys are right on the ball:

http://www.e-gunparts.com/model.asp?idDept=231

They have all sorts of stuff for all sorts of guns, apart from mags & receivers (per the customs rules) everything else is okay to be shipped up here.

They get full stock sets every once in a while, but it can take time.

Don't get doscouraged, it all comes down to the time any way. I'm suffering a severe piss-taking off the guys for the length of time this has been sitting in my basement, but what the heck, I'd be taking the piss as well if I was as ugly as they are, it diverts attention. ;)

Yorkie November 8th, 2008 16:46

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Originally Posted by Krieg (Post 857120)
Glynn, look on page 3 of the thread I shoved :)

Bugger. I'm a bloody wingnut sometimes, I didn't even realise there was more than one page!

redhawk_six November 8th, 2008 17:48

The idea that the No.1 is incorrect for WWII is not true. While the No.4 was more widely used, the No.1 also saw combat use with commonwealth forces, including the Canadians. In fact, it saw it's fair share of use in the African and later the Italian campaigns.

Dogfood November 8th, 2008 21:08

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Originally Posted by Yorkie (Post 857297)
but what the heck, I'd be taking the piss as well if I was as ugly as they are, it diverts attention.
Bugger. I'm a bloody wingnut sometimes, I didn't even realise there was more than one page!

LOL. Dumbass!! And I mean that in the nicest way possible buddy..

GeneralMatt November 8th, 2008 22:11

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Originally Posted by scheer (Post 857257)
The balls were aimed at the seller not you ;) Like I say most of the people I've dealt with on ebay.com are good folks and very helpful, you just need to be patient and ask around.

I now have everything for the No.4 I can get, including the magazine which are the most difficult to source, I only need the internals. I'm currently aiming on using a gas gun, that way I don't have to cut a space for the magazines to slot in. But then it comes with all the problems of a gas gun & I'll have to use the magazine as a template to make fake mags to stick to the bottom of the gas mags so it's swings & round abouts. My one will (fingers crossed) be better aesthetically at the expense of practicality & possibly performance but it comes down to what you're wanting.

Ah, okay, I feel better now. :)

Yeah, at the moment I am aiming more for a mixture of a fairly good overall cost, relatively good durability, and enough look to make it feel real. At least compared to some of those odd looking clearsoft ones that don't even feel like a gun....

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Originally Posted by Yorkie (Post 857297)
Bugger. I'm a bloody wingnut sometimes, I didn't even realise there was more than one page!

Don't feel bad, your not the only one, until they mentioned it, I thought there was only one page myself. :p

In regards to the No 1's use in WWII, I guess it was a necessity weapon, the UK was REALLY short on guns after D-Day, only by the generosity of the Americans in sending over an early shipment of arms, could most of the main soldiers on the Islands be armed (the 1st Canadian division included).

And in regards to Canada, in '39, we had 29 Brens, 23 anti tank rifles and 5 three inch mortars. :p

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Originally Posted by Yorkie (Post 857284)
If it's parts you want, these guys are right on the ball:

http://www.e-gunparts.com/model.asp?idDept=231

They have all sorts of stuff for all sorts of guns, apart from mags & receivers (per the customs rules) everything else is okay to be shipped up here.

They get full stock sets every once in a while, but it can take time.

Don't get doscouraged, it all comes down to the time any way. I'm suffering a severe piss-taking off the guys for the length of time this has been sitting in my basement, but what the heck, I'd be taking the piss as well if I was as ugly as they are, it diverts attention. ;)

Thanks for the link, should be a help. I will work on not getting discouraged also. ;)

Yorkie November 9th, 2008 09:16

Hey Matt, you should see if you can make it to one of the WW2 events, I know it would be quite a way for you to get here, but as you can see we're a very supportive bunch...

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Originally Posted by Dogfood (Post 857426)
LOL. Dumbass!! And I mean that in the nicest way possible buddy..

Cheers mate, I feel all warm and fuzzy inside now. ;)

scheer November 9th, 2008 12:52

Well having spent a day running around in British Airborne kit for todays WW2 themed event, I have to say the Shoot'n'scoot Enfield No.4 is very effective, great range and accuracy. As I said before it's based on the APS with Classic Army advanced hop up & precision barrel.

GeneralMatt November 9th, 2008 12:59

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Originally Posted by Yorkie (Post 857651)
Hey Matt, you should see if you can make it to one of the WW2 events, I know it would be quite a way for you to get here, but as you can see we're a very supportive bunch...

I am sure I would really enjoy it for sure, I have been dreaming about running around playing war since I was really little, and mom and dad hoped I would grow out of it. :p

I hear though, its getting pretty late in the season correct? So maybe next season, I know I would quite enjoy it.

I should look it up scheer, are they still making them?

scheer November 9th, 2008 13:08

The owner/proprietor of Shoot'n'Scoot makes each one to order.

GeneralMatt November 9th, 2008 13:09

Ah, very nice, though he is in the UK judging from the prices in Pounds? I guess that would be a problem with our customs as they are. I did not take our custom troubles to be solely on the US border...

GeneralMatt April 5th, 2009 19:02

I thought I might mention that a woodworking friend and I have started work at carving a stock out of a large chunk of wood, if I get any good pictures, and there is any interest, I might show an image. Unfortunately I have not even got age verified yet, the guy is still in my area is still in Afghanistan for a bit, so we agreed not to cut out any of the insides till I actually lay my hands on the machinery (Which requires getting age verified) but the work on the stock may be of interest.


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