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Ripready September 15th, 2008 00:43

Airsoft Jerseys
 
I was wondering if there is any interest in airsoft jerseys. Not the military spec or replica stuff that guys like Crye make. But I guess more like sportswear using hi tech breathable materials in a camouflage pattern.

My company makes sportswear and we're looking at non-traditional markets. We have various materials available like drifit, compression/underarmour, vented mesh, etc...

What does everyone think? Is the preference more to wear replica stuff?

What would you like to see in the garment? Loose fitting, more compression fitting (like the Crye stuff), materials, etc...

Thanks for the info

rip

Thorazine September 15th, 2008 01:27

Absolutely not. This isn't paintball. My 0.02.

Dusti69 September 15th, 2008 01:48

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thorazine (Post 818026)
This isn't paintball.

exactly what i thought when i read "airsoft jersey" and then i was like jersey???

Strelok September 15th, 2008 02:02

Sorry, that wont work here.

Paintball is paintball, Airsoft is airsoft, And airsoft defenately isnt the sport to be wearing jerseys in.
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Chingyul September 15th, 2008 02:06

I'm coming from the assumption that he knows airsofters aren't interested in paintball style jerseys.
I think the jist of it is whether there'd be a market for t-shirts (long or short?) in a camo pattern made from breathable sportswear material.

I dunno. There might be.
I played a game in an Under Armour loose long sleeve T (OD) today. I'm swapping through my gear, so no vest on.
If you can get some decent patterns, I'd be interested. I like not wearing BDU tops on hot days. Plus it was just a casual skirmish (newbie day).

Ktown Militia September 15th, 2008 02:06

Thats something im not intersted in at all.

Styrak September 15th, 2008 02:08

Not interested. Like was said, this isn't paintball. Or football. We wear BDU's and combat vests/chest rigs/plate carriers.

Dusti69 September 15th, 2008 02:20

maybe if they made bds and gear that was very breathable like football jerseys and what not then yea i could see that being of some interest. but that probly already exists

super_six_four September 15th, 2008 02:38

you guys summed it all up for me too, for our airsoft store we do have t-shirts and we did t-shirts to give away for a trip to melville but thats about it, nothing in the way of jerseys

Ripready September 15th, 2008 02:48

Maybe jerseys was the wrong choice of words ;) I just got some info from another forum and the stuff I'm thinking of is similar to what Massif sells. But I want to refocus the conversation here. I want to build something for the market, I'm not saying here is my football, hockey, etc... jersey, do you want to use it for airsoft?

I'm asking if there is a market for those airsoft people who don't want to dress up in authentic gear and want a little more of a performance garment (ie. breathable, etc...). The hardcore guys definitely want the real looking stuff. But they're also the guys that will spend thousands on their airsoft guns. It's the guys that go out there wearing the t-shirts that I'm interested in hearing from ;)

KNIVEZS September 15th, 2008 02:56

http://www.massif.com/nomex_fleece/a...mbat_shirt.php

http://ebaybanned.com/product_info.p...roducts_id=123

http://www.cpgear.com/default.asp?mn...6&f=pd&pid=604

arman September 15th, 2008 02:56

we already wear our jerseys.... here ill show you.

http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/f...0/100_2468.jpg

see 2 nice german jerseys...

Dusti69 September 15th, 2008 02:57

i dont think anybody skirmishes in t shirts. try america for that crap
better yet make hoodies and baggy jeans. thats what all the kids with walmart pistols down here wear when theyre shooting each other

thats a neat looking g36 btw

Ripready September 15th, 2008 03:09

Thanks KNIVEZS that's exactly the type of garment I'm thinking of making. But there's got to be something specific to airsoft. I mean does every airsoft person want to run around looking authentic?

Drache September 15th, 2008 03:09

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dusti69 (Post 818062)
i dont think anybody skirmishes in t shirts. try america for that crap
better yet make hoodies and baggy jeans. thats what all the kids with walmart pistols down here wear when theyre shooting each other

thats a neat looking g36 btw

you might want to be a little more helpful with your criticism....

underarmour is really neat stuff and I was using an UA shirt underneath my BDU's for the longest time until it was lost during a move. For those that dont know what underarmour is I suggest looking into it. When you sweat during rounds of airsoft, a UA short will keep you dry and keeps you cooled off as well! A friend had a UA skullcap for under his boonie and loved it!

As for airsoft wise, really I don't see people wearing anything like that while playing airsoft unless it was something under their BDU and even then you can buy that already.

And I'm not sure how well trying to make a BDU have the same properties as US will work but that I might be interested in!

Quote:

UA is a brand of clothing headquartered in Baltimore, Maryland, designed for use in sports. Under Armour led the trend of form-fitting, moisture-wicking performance apparel.

Many soldiers serving in Iraq and Afghanistan wear Under Armour or similar moisture-wicking clothing for some relief in the hot climate.

Dusti69 September 15th, 2008 03:22

what about regular old ripstop bdu's but every inch of the material is covered in little holes like a football jersey? anything like that exist? or something that is extremly breathable but waterproof at the same time

Styrak September 15th, 2008 03:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ripready (Post 818066)
Thanks KNIVEZS that's exactly the type of garment I'm thinking of making. But there's got to be something specific to airsoft. I mean does every airsoft person want to run around looking authentic?

Yes. At least in Canada. That's kind of the point.

Ripready September 15th, 2008 03:28

now that's something interesting that might work. If it is a BDU, that looks authentic but has venting in strategic places and is made more from a breathable material, would that work? The authentic stuff needs to be extremely durable of course. I'm looking at more breathability but sacrifice on durability. From a distance, it will look authentic but not up close. Would that work?

Dusti69 September 15th, 2008 03:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ripready (Post 818071)
I'm looking at more breathability but sacrifice on durability.?

um ripstop cotton bdu's are pretty tough. just ventilate them a lot
and like i said before. market new ideas and stuff like this in america, cuz well buy just about anything down here. for example take a look at the hunting and fishing industries. just walk into a basspro or cabelas and look at all the gimmicy junk thats sposed to make you better at hunting and fishing but is just a bunch of needless crap

Drache September 15th, 2008 03:38

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dusti69 (Post 818073)
just walk into a basspro or cabelas and look at all the gimmicy junk thats sposed to make you better at hunting and fishing but is just a bunch of needless crap

Ok now that is funny and yet so true! I remember walking into a Cabelas with a friend who used to own an outdoors store here and we spent hours going through laughing at all the junk that is supposed to make people better outdoorsmen!

Gotta love the people who think camping/hunting involves a 5th Wheel or Motorhome :D

Ripready September 15th, 2008 03:50

yeah ripstop cotton will be a problem because one of the main things we do is sublimation. For those who don't know what it is, it is basically printing onto a garment. Sublimation doesn't work on cotton very well, only polyester.

I guess the route I think I'll go is to go with a generic shirt like a 5.11 HRT and make it available in any camouflage pattern know to man :) and use venting/breathable material. I don't think I can afford to buy every BDU out there and replicate it using different materials.

Dusti69 September 15th, 2008 04:01

here you go. for the win!http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/...eL._AA280_.jpg
in this you will be twice as ready for anything than the average airsofter deck out in a bunch of gear

Drache September 15th, 2008 04:03

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dusti69 (Post 818080)
here you go. for the win!http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/...eL._AA280_.jpg
in this you will be twice as ready for anything than the average airsofter deck out in a bunch of gear

WTH are you doing looking at pics like this?! http://www.airsoftcanada.com/images/..._confused2.gif

Dusti69 September 15th, 2008 04:06

ha... i was googling types of mesh camo to see if there was anything out there like he wants to make and came accross it..... couldnt resist posting it
and you gotta admit. its camo, and extremely breathable!

while easier on the eyes it would not have been as funny if id have posted this instead
http://www.sunsationcreation.com/CamoMeshBikini.jpg

Ripready September 15th, 2008 05:31

haha, that's a little too breathable.

TokyoSeven September 15th, 2008 06:55

Quote:

Originally Posted by Drache (Post 818067)
underarmour is really neat stuff and I was using an UA shirt underneath my BDU's for the longest time until it was lost during a move. For those that dont know what underarmour is I suggest looking into it. When you sweat during rounds of airsoft, a UA short will keep you dry and keeps you cooled off as well! A friend had a UA skullcap for under his boonie and loved it!

I also own underarmour, its amazing. Although I do prefer lululemon and usually wear that instead, essentially the same crap just sexier. My on the move jacket is the comfiest thing in the world for CQB, also lulu is Canadian!

Courtesy September 15th, 2008 10:02

For under BDU's, compression stuff is great. UA almost never goes on sale, but other quality brands I use are Nike Dri-Fit and Ice Gear.

Other than making similar stuff to go under our BDU's, I can't think of much of a market.

Styrak September 15th, 2008 10:15

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dusti69 (Post 818083)
ha... i was googling types of mesh camo to see if there was anything out there like he wants to make and came accross it..... couldnt resist posting it
and you gotta admit. its camo, and extremely breathable!

while easier on the eyes it would not have been as funny if id have posted this instead
http://www.sunsationcreation.com/CamoMeshBikini.jpg

So you image-link the dude, but not the hot woman in a bikini.

Wow.

DENZILDON September 15th, 2008 10:17

I think your best bet would be an under garmet for airsofting. Like what the others said it does work and I use one too.

Another thing you can look at since (I don't want to say it) winter is already around the corner are tactical fleece and jackets (If you can do it) because I know some of us, there is no such thing as cold weather if your shooting!

Gigaknight September 15th, 2008 10:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by DENZILDON (Post 818175)
I think your best bet would be an under garmet for airsofting. Like what the others said it does work and I use one too.

Another thing you can look at since (I don't want to say it) winter is already around the corner are tactical fleece and jackets (If you can do it) because I know some of us, there is no such thing as cold weather if your shooting!

+1

If we can combine the aesthetics or airsoft combined with comfort (something to keep us warm and/or dry) then you'll have something worthwhile.

Curse you for reminding me of winter!!!

DENZILDON September 15th, 2008 10:21

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gigaknight (Post 818177)

Curse you for reminding me of winter!!!

I know, it sucks eh! :banghead: :p

m102404 September 15th, 2008 10:29

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ripready (Post 818004)
I was wondering if there is any interest in airsoft jerseys. Not the military spec or replica stuff that guys like Crye make. But I guess more like sportswear using hi tech breathable materials in a camouflage pattern.

My company makes sportswear and we're looking at non-traditional markets. We have various materials available like drifit, compression/underarmour, vented mesh, etc...

What does everyone think? Is the preference more to wear replica stuff?

What would you like to see in the garment? Loose fitting, more compression fitting (like the Crye stuff), materials, etc...

Thanks for the info

rip

I'd be interested in that type of stuff. There's lots of times that I'd rather run something lighter.

I've seen (and have done it myself) lots of guys run just t-shirts under their rigs...outdoors or not. I'd prefer long sleeves...with reinforcement/tougher sections on the elbows. Helps with the bugs and thorns.

Too bad I've only seen British UBACS in desert pattern, I'd buy it right now if it was in the green DPM version. Multicam/ACU may be all the rage...but I don't care for it at the fields around here.

I suggest you validate/temper the other responses you're getting here by reviewing the past post/threads/histories of the posters.

If you work up some similar to the British UBACS or the CP Gear OTW shirt in a green DPM pattern...PM me and I'll have the guys field test it and post a review.

****edit****
Quality counts...enough of the disintegrating knock off stuff...
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Tys

Brian McIlmoyle September 15th, 2008 10:35

Quote:

Originally Posted by m102404 (Post 818186)
I'd be interested in that type of stuff. There's lots of times that I'd rather run something lighter.

I've seen (and have done it myself) lots of guys run just t-shirts under their rigs...outdoors or not. I'd prefer long sleeves...with reinforcement/tougher sections on the elbows. Helps with the bugs and thorns.

Too bad I've only seen British UBACS in desert pattern, I'd buy it right now if it was in the green DPM version. Multicam/ACU may be all the rage...but I don't care for it at the fields around here.

I suggest you validate/temper the other responses you're getting here by reviewing the past post/threads/histories of the posters.

If you work up some similar to the British UBACS or the CP Gear OTW shirt in a green DPM pattern...PM me and I'll have the guys field test it and post a review.

****edit****
Quality counts...enough of the disintegrating knock off stuff...
***********

Tys

What he said, If it is good gear that works I could care less the source or the intention behind the creation of it.

Blackthorne September 15th, 2008 11:47

I am just having another section of this conversation on another thread.

I love Under Armour. But the Tactical line is a royal pain in the ass to get in Canada.

I am open to anything. Hell, a long sleeve compression tee and compression leggings in CADPAT. In August, I would wear that by itself as long as there was some anti rip/anti snag ability. Fuck the BDU.

I'm like Brian. I want to replicate reality to some extent, but I also know being as comfortable (as infantrymen can be) as possible helps one to focus on the task at hand.

Heatgear type performance, in a camo compression fit BDU that doesn't snag on everything (like UA)? That would interest me.

Ripready September 15th, 2008 11:58

Ok now we're talking. I was also discussing the topic in Arnie's Airsoft and it seemed the two opinions of what people wanted were very different. But it seems like it's all coming together now.

What I have in mind is something like the Crye/UBACS/CP Gear type shirt with:

1. a compression body (ie. Underarmour stuff) but with a camo pattern
2. tough polyester sleeves with a camo pattern. It can't be cotton ripstop because I can't print onto that material. I also won't put pockets and stuff on it to keep costs low.
3. Nylon reinforcement in the elbow and forearm area.
4. Optional padding insert (foam) in the elbow area you can remove if necessary.
5. High neck collar (mandarin neck). I won't use a zipper so it will be similar to the Massif ACS
6. Double or triple stitched all around.
7. Since I can print each garment individually, can make any camo pattern

So excuse my ignorance because I'm not really an airsoft guy. What are you wearing to protect the torso? Wearing compression gear and getting hit with a pellet isn't the most comfortable thing in the world.

At first I was thinking about losing the compression stuff and building more of a breathable BDU type where you can put foam armour sections underneath in the front. That way no need to wear a vest, you lose a little bit of breathability but at least it doesn't hurt. Or is the preference to actually wear a vest for authenticity? Then compression stuff underneath the vest makes a lot of sense.

DENZILDON September 15th, 2008 12:03

Vest is important since we need all our mags, etc.

FOX_111 September 15th, 2008 12:31

Don't cheap out on pockets. You never have enough of pockets.
Especially on the arms, since our plate carrier render the chest pockets un-usable.

Same thing for the legs. Some use drop leg holdster, so having pocket on the calf is usefull.

That stuff is already common in the latest generation BDU.

What is still unseen, is a normal ripstop BDU with openable vents under the arms, back and front. THAT, I'd be interested in.

T-Hell September 15th, 2008 12:33

Make em in bright colours for Kids so that we know they are on the field and we can call No Duff ... oops did i take that shot at the same time.... :)

DENZILDON September 15th, 2008 13:18

Just a suggestion, try attending some of the games in your area to get a feel of what you need. You won't be able to make a good product if you just take it from someone else.

You may want to interview or get suggestions from real service men. Then your market will be much bigger and not just airsoft palyers. Plus if military and law enforcement uses your product, for sure the airsoft players will do as well!!!

Blackthorne September 15th, 2008 13:43

Something that translates outside of airsoft well also:

- No seams on the top of the shoulder

- Padding on the shoulder. Makes the ruck or armour straps easier to tolerate.

panda86 September 15th, 2008 14:06

Velcro on the sides of your biceps for patches, ID etc..

skalnok September 15th, 2008 14:08

compression t-shits in OD lol

Dusti69 September 15th, 2008 14:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by Styrak (Post 818173)
So you image-link the dude, but not the hot woman in a bikini.

Wow.

the pic of the bikini girl was huge and i didnt feel like making the thread have to scroll all the way to the side

PaRkA September 15th, 2008 14:48

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ripready (Post 818066)
Thanks KNIVEZS that's exactly the type of garment I'm thinking of making. But there's got to be something specific to airsoft. I mean does every airsoft person want to run around looking authentic?

Pretty much anyone on these boards.

SINN September 15th, 2008 14:50

you are all freakin magwinders here!

Whatever happened to shirts vs. skins? I go skins...i guess you guys are the shirts!! :)

BB's just bounce off my abs

Dusti69 September 15th, 2008 14:55

Quote:

Originally Posted by SINN (Post 818343)

BB's just bounce off my abs

and my nipples
...seriously. this kid took my bros xm8 with a ca gearbox and hosed a whole mag on me from 4 feet away all over my shoulders neck and chest

i almost would like to see a full body light armor set like those ones for motorcycles and dirtbikes where they have the back pads and chest pads with connected shoulder,elbow, and forearm padding
but then still... this isnt paintball and that crap would probly look like paintball gear. the only thing from paintball i wear for airsoft is a goggle mask

i think a better idea rather than making gear would be to make every day casual clothing like t's, hoodies, and hats with airsoft company logos and pics on them like every other industry including skateboarding, snowboarding, and everything having to do with dirtbikes and atv's
it might be selling out a bit but then we could have an article of clothing depicting our favorite brands or some crap like that

808 September 15th, 2008 15:27

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dusti69 (Post 818346)
and my nipples
...seriously. this kid took my bros xm8 with a ca gearbox and hosed a whole mag on me from 4 feet away all over my shoulders neck and chest

I hope you punched him in the face afterwards.

Dusti69 September 15th, 2008 15:35

oh his fat xbox360 ass got it really good from my 416. it made bb nipples in his shirt and red dots on his skin that you could almost swear were actually holes
and did i mention that all that was protecting my skin was a wifebeater? yea i was a little pissed

this is of course why 16 year olds are not aloud to play or have airsoft in canada. the country is just a little smarter and doesnt classify airsoft as toys for kids like the u.s. obviously does.

i was actually thinking about this ever since the beginning of this thread. a hockey jersey. why the hell not?
black sleeves and shoulders with camo stripes on the sleeves and an od or grey chest depending on the color of the camo in the stripes. maybe a pic of an ak or m4 on the shoulders and front or somethign like that and on the back maybe something like systema for a name and then the numbers would be like 1K

.........haha

Troy T. Moore September 15th, 2008 17:58

I am more of o BDU closer to authentic milsim kinda guy. The reason I chose Airsoft over paintball is because it has more realistic weaponry and the style of play also reflects realism.

Paintball is like HALO, or some other "spacey" Sci-fi warfare IMHO. Shooting around corners one handed and diving over inflatable barriers...blech!

I also do not think people should be "armoured" unless you are playing CQB as the pain experienced is a good indicator to call your hits.


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