2 piece quad rail system for m4/m16
 

i was cruising "real steel" sites for some reason or another out of boredom and stumbled on this set up:

http://www.tacticalgears.com/Scripts...?idproduct=708

damn that looks sexy,and appears to mount like standard handguards,plus checkout the price! ive been looking for some sort of differant handguard set-up simply to get rid of the "ribbed for her pleasure" ugly handguards currently on my weapon. this looks pretty enticing.

That is pretty awesome. Good find. I've been looking for some new rails for my gun, and this might be the answer. Thanks for sharing :D

i sent an email to the company to see if they ship international or not. i will post up the email response if/when its returned.

Slick, I was gonna google about and see if they did, but since you're emailing, I guess I don't have to.

I don't see why they wouldn't though. It's simple furniture for stock AR's. It's not even a really high end tactical piece.

in the email i stated it was for airsoft,i thought i better state what it was for since im enquiring about real steel accessories for a weapon restricted/banned in canada. here's their home page link for you check out.

http://tacticalgears.com/scripts/default.asp

they ship to canada but your order must be of a minimum of $25

did you even check arround?

http://tacticalgears.com/scripts/main_terms.asp

yes i "checked around" but i wanted to be sure considering its an accessory for a restricted weapon.

just recieved a return email:


We do ship to Canada. Thanks for visiting our Site. Andrew/mngr
----- Original Message -----

Good chances those won't make it through border, US side. 50% chance it does/does not since its real steel and the US is very strict about what they let out of the country.

good call,,even though they ship to canada it still might not pass through. im looking to see whats available through canadain retailers and awaiting a reply from marstar.

Ah i'm also waiting for a reply from marstar.

DD replied to me with 'we can ship it but it will be seized, do you want a refund?' i had to say yes lol... :(

im searching other can retailers,i found this site in barrie ont.

http://www.questar.ca/images/UTG/mnt-hg416sa-insta.jpg

http://www.questar.ca/

sent an email to them asking for info such as handguard sizes. if i can find real steel acc, in country and cheaper than actual airsoft prices,,,well you know where my money will be going.

WTF? why would it be seized?

and what are you talking about? its an accessory for a restricted weapon, the gun is restricted, not the accessories.

Stop posting your idiotic comments. Just read the fucking posts and information given about everything.

Questar only ships to PAL owners. Big bummer b/c i found the perfect quad rail for my PTW :(

Why wouldn't it make it over the border from the US side? It's not an export restricted item. Nor is it illegal to import. We have enough fucking backwards laws to content with already, don't go around pulling new ones out of your ass.

That being said, @OP: dunno what gun you plan on dropping that onto, but since it's made for real steel you're to need a "real style" barrel nut/delta ring:

http://www.bravocompanyusa.com/v/vsp...t%20AR15-1.jpg

G&P and KA make some, they're like $25-30.

The handguard cap (at the front) may or may not need replacing.

damn,,thats two strike outs on canadian retailers.

actually in questar's faq its states the pal restriction.

(copied from their site)

Step #2...
Send us your personal information as requested in our On-Line Order Form. Whether you are purchasing a complete firearm or firearm related parts and accessories, our company policy is to identify all customers. We only do business with licensed firearms owners... so a scanned (or faxed) copy of your PAL will be required for our files to insure that this is the case. All personal information supplied is maintained in the strictest of confidence and only used to process your order requests. We NEVER use your personal information for "marketing" purposes.

so it's looking like the real steel way is not the way to go. oh well,,fun while it lasted. mods can i have this thread removed please. thx,,

Yeah I know about Questar. But that's just Questar. Questar can do whatever they want. They can say "we only deal with people who send us a naked picture of their wife/girlfriend." It has nothing to do with the law.

The original link you posted wasn't from Questar.

So given all that, Questar can lick my salty nuts. The CDN is still worth more than the USD, and I have no problem sending it down South of the border if people up here don't want my business.

Drake before turning the torch on, at least READ.

I already talked to the US border and accessories like front hand guards are a no no unless they are manufactured with no trades or 'fake' trades.

DD, LaRue, Knights etc will not make it through. I know because i asked them + asked the retailers. All gave me the same answer. Iv been stuck trying to get a RS front handguard for over a month.

So next time, think before posting mate.

Even my fucking Troy FLASHHIDER got seized...

Guys, the only stuff you really need to worry about being export restricted are the items used by any branch/group of the U.S. military. In a time of war (which is now for them), they will control the flow of technology to keep their battlefield "edge". So, items like night vision, weapon sights, thermal imagers (for weapons), guns, and issued accesories will be export resticted.

A $99 UTG rail won't be one of them. But on the plus side, Questar is ITAR-equipped in their U.S. operations, so they can get you most things that would otherwise be impossible for any other retailer to get.

I have that UTG rail currently mounted on a real AR. It's a kick-ass rail for the money, that's for sure.

mc we need a PAL to buy it from Questar. I have ZERO problem buying from them but i don't have a PAL. Businesses in the US prefer NOT to bother with us, a lot of them decline my business when i asked them to ship to Canada.

So right now, i'm down to trying to find a RS or G&P 7 inch RIS or RAS handguard for my M4 thats located IN Canada. So far no luck...

Edit: My 'last' chance are those guys http://www.aimsurplus.com/acatalog/U...il_covers.html

I yet received a 'yes/no we will ship to Canada'.

Perhaps I don't realize how hard it is to buy parts from some people without having a PAL. I got my FAC over 18 years ago, so not having a license is something I don't easily remember. Perhaps I'm spoiled because I can just order whatever I can find?

But look around for used deals on CGN. I saw some ARMS, Daniel Defense, UTG and other stuff for sale on there recently. But some stuff is in high demand, and quick cash talks. But stuff is always available if you know where to look.

Whats CGN? The cash is more than ready, i want my front handguard :D

And getting my PAL is on my 'to-do' list for this summer.

Edit: CGN = http://www.canadiangunnutz.com/ ?

Yep. And you'd be surprised how many from ASC are there already.

lol well i just joined, filled my profile and finished doing the 'things' needed to be done to see their version of the classifieds.

*sigh*

no YOU need to read, dude. For one, I said it's not a problem for items that aren't export restricted. The US state dept issues export licenses (or refuses to) for any guns or parts/components. Many parts are export restricted, and are usually indicated as such (not the case with the handguard OP posted AND the seller said he'd ship to Canada).

Start by reading these:

http://www.cfc-cafc.gc.ca/factsheets/imports_e.asp

http://www.dfait-maeci.gc.ca/eicb/military/faq-en.asp (notably Q4 is the one you want to pay attention to)


As for your flash hider, you'll notice the "NO EXPORT" on the second line

http://www.skdtac.com/index.asp?Page...ROD&ProdID=690


You really need to start doing your homework.

Your links fail to touch the topic of this thread. Which is real steel accessories (firearms) bought in the US and shipped to Canada. Doesn't matter what Canadian Law states if the other side say's no. Not sure how clearer it can be said. I did my homework, i phoned and e-mailed the concern parties and i was told no. BUT i was told that no trades or 'fake' trades accessories are ok. (aka airsoft stuff like G&P front handguard as long the item is listed as a toy and not a RS accessory if real trades are on it).

Concerning the Flashhider:
No export? Didn't buy it from that site so i didn't get a 'no export' warning. All i got was a 'item will be shipped soon' and well you know the rest.

If you're worried about the rails not crossing the border or aren't up to the idea of them being seized, get them shipped to Ship Happens in Sumas and walk them across personally. All you need is a receipt of payment and your own ID (passport).
At the most you'll just have to pay the small importing fee, but that should be waived since it'd be an American product...personally, I've brought optics, rail kits, stocks, and magazines across, AND I'm usually wearing a DPM smock :D

lol wow O_O

Ship Happens is great I have used them twice now. hell with the way some ebay sellers rape you for shipping here, it's still cheaper to use them then to ship to my house. I should start using them more.

I'm just gonna go through Questar, I've got a PAL and PAL-R so whoop-dee-doo. Guess I'll need one of those KA rings now, lol.

wolverine supplies has similar version, its a midwest undustries

MCTAR-19 Two Piece Forearm - Full Length

I'd be happier if I dealt with John than having to deal with someone I don't know.

http://www.midwestindustriesinc.com/...category_id=67

Looks pretty good to me. I just need rails that work with standard handguard sets.

it does.

John from Questar? which john are you talking about? theres a bunch of johns. lol

Wolverine has great customer service, their nice too.

Whenever I have something coming from inside the US I get it sent to them.

Actually it touched upon all the topics raised in this thread:


Considering you've failed to import stuff, you shouldn't be so quick to dismiss advice from people who've successfully done so. Most of what you needed to know is in those documents. Either way, you're on your own now. Good luck with your handguard.



Some airsoft sites say they'll ship to Canada; doesn't mean it'll get here, either. This again falls under the "do your homework" category; didn't take me more than 20 seconds on Google to find out that flash hider wouldn't get exported.

Not to mention there are Canadian vendors that went through the effort to get export permits so they could bring stuff in (DD handguards, for example).

Drake has touched on a good point. If you buy it Canada from a Canadian vendor, it's here, no problems. If you order real gun parts (not accessories like rails) from the U.S., then you may have some questions to answer from the CBSA and RCMP as to why a non-PAL holder without a gun registered to them is ordering gun parts. This has happened to a couple JOC members who ordered gas blocks for ARs that they didn't own.

As for export-restricted accessories, you are pretty much at the mercy of a foreign retailer and foreign customs service. You take your chances, and cost savings are not really that much of an incentive in my opinion.

John Hipwell of Wolverine :P Got my PAL and PAL-R through him...