Just thought I would share this with everyone.
 

http://ww2airsoft.net/

This is a conversation I had with one of the company reps. These are some of the details and above is the link to thier page.

Mariposa says:
hello
Mariposa says:
my question was who is the manufacturer of these products?
Supplier says:
we make them ourselves
Supplier says:
the internals are bought from a reatiler
Supplier says:
retailer*
Mariposa says:
and is there any kind of guarantee on the product and its reproduction?
Supplier says:
we garentee it wont break if handled properly
Supplier says:
if its broken when you receive it
Supplier says:
we will replace it
Supplier says:
all guns are thoroughly inspected before shipment
Supplier says:
but we wont replace it if it is seized by customs
Supplier says:
you read the red text on our website?
Supplier says:
on basicaly all the pages
Mariposa says:
is the gear box and gears metal or is the gun 100% ABS plastic?
Supplier says:
the gearbox can be metal but that would change the price
Supplier says:
the outer part of the gun is made of heavy duty plastic
Supplier says:
the reason for that is because there is too many problems with canadian law involving replica firearms
Mariposa says:
What kind of plastic?
Supplier says:
.09
Mariposa says:
yeah Abs plastic or Canadian Tire Clear soft plastic?
Supplier says:
abs
Mariposa says:
that's clearer than now I know what kind of durability I have.
Mariposa says:
Do they fit common air soft gear boxes or is it a one off product that you guys have made?
Supplier says:
its made for a specific gearbox
Supplier says:
if there is any special gearbox that you want put in it we can do that
Mariposa says:
that's cool thanks for the in formation.. I will be sure to share the information with all the air softers I know, try to increase your sales but for now I am waiting for the M-40 and the Luger pistol.
Supplier says::
our mp40 is available we just havent added it to the product list yet
Mariposa says:
price?
Supplier says:
about $150
Supplier says:
we havent worked out our final price so were open for deals
Mariposa says:
do you accept local pick ups or do you only ship by mail.. to try and save shipping costs.
Mariposa says:
And do they have any trade marks on them or are they just plain janes (will the luger actually say Luger on it or will it just look like it?
Supplier says:
there are no trademarks
Supplier says:
we dont allow local pickups right now but we can give cheap shipping
Mariposa says:
ok thx

P.S. I wasn't sure where to post this... sorry if it is in the wrong spot.

It (the thread) would probably find a good home under this section: http://www.airsoftcanada.com/forumdisplay.php?f=95

In any case, that's a very interesting find. Too bad they don't allow local pickups (yet) because I'm hesitant to buy from a place offering such low prices, for what are very sought after items amoung us WW2 re-enactors. Then again, the prices are very low.

Keeping in mind they are 100% ABS however they are nice looking

Thats insanly cheap compared to other airsoft guns...

Wonder why?

Thats why.

Hahaha, I can only imagine running, jumping and then plopping down on a burm by some hill, only to plop down the MG42 down and have both bipod legs shatter.

Not to mention what damage might be done by bb's against 0.090" plastic.

However, I'd be interested in a Luger or P38 to fill a holster.

Haha! Thats pretty damn funny... or if the bipod held up but the barrel snapped.

Anyways, thanks for posting, I sent out an email, want a cheap Tommy gun to put on my wall. Might just get the model instead of the airsoft one since its plastic gearboxed.

Cheers!
Alex

Hmmm, interesting.... judgement reserved for now...

Already placed an order for a Tommy model. So far, excellent communication/service.

Will keep you updated once its ready and I receive it.

Cheers!
Alex

is there any issues shipping here??

its still gonna get seized its not see through

I'm not sure what to make of this D:

$130 isn't much of a loss anyway, for a BAR. I mean... if it does break, you still got a neat looking model.

EDIT: I wanna know more about the reliability of these here AEG's D:

mmmmm....plastic BAR......but can't trust a retailer that list this, 410 fps (0.12g BB)

That's with a .12g BB, so I'm guessing, with a .2 you'll get 260 or so.

So what? There are plastic gearboxes that can do that, and thats what it has. You can opt for a metal gearboxed version, but it will cost you more. Since I dont plan to field the Tommy, I just got the model. No gearbox at all.

And Arman, if it does, too bad for them. You're getting it AFTER they get it and build it. They are in Burlington, Ontario, and thats where they ship from, using actual shipping costs. They said the Thompson has some small metal parts. I will hopefully have mine in a week or two.

Cheers,
Alex

Careful that the noob underagers see this thread, they no longer will be forced to get there parents to buy them clearsoft from WalMart or Crap Tire

So these guys are located in Canada?

Edit: Yup, just looked at their info. They're in TO.

Hmmph, interesting.

I'm weary of the quality... and the site doesn't do much for professionalism either.

The PICTURES look good. =\

As Mariposa (my gf ) has found out they are located and shipping from Burlington Ontario no customs issue

here is their reply to my e-mail-"We are located in Burlington Ontario and we use canada post to ship throughout Canada."
Should not be a problem.

MP44 10 lbs??? Nice. Thank you... thank you so much

I hope you didn't give them your credit card number.

More than likely this site is a scam to steal your money. If you're lucky they'll at least send you a piece of garbage.

But anyways, heres some food for thought:
http://www.secondworldwarhistory.com...atic_rifle.asp

Scroll down the page--does the picture look familiar?

More below...
http://www.ahgmilitaria.com/Rifles/USCarbine2.jpg (This is the same picture on their site, except they cut it out of the green background)
http://www.airsoft.cz/shop/images/tm-thompson.jpg (This is the TM thompson... rofl)
http://www.a2armory.com/mp44-rifle.html
http://www.militaryfactory.com/small...mallarms_id=63

Rofl.
-VM

WTF are u talking about? If they are a scam, wouldnt they try to sell more popular guns? If they are a scam, would they claim their guns are plastic, not metal/wood SHOEI guns? Do you know what form of payment he made (most online are traceable)? Notice the cogeco.ca e-mail address? Also another method of tracking someone down. No need for jumping to conclusions

We also dont care if they suck cause most of the WW2 ones released to date have been crappy and expensive (TOP) so these are at least cheap

To fool people like you.
-VM

Did a little investigating of my own for ASC...

They claim the picture is of THEIR gun as well. Great legitimacy.

-VM

Yeah,

I'm calling scam on this one, if not, colour me suprised.

Thank you for the heads up. Although it could very well be legit, and they just stole pics of the web since they don't have any complete models (which would make sense). Perhaps due to them being afraid of any copyright problems, they claimed it as their own picture?

On the other hand, they did say they sold out, thus they had models, thus they had a chance to take actual pics.

Hmm...

I'll have to reconsider I guess.

Thanks a lot for bringing it to my attention!
Cheers,
Alex

Got an email from them:

"The ones on our website are infact pictures of the finnished models that we had at one point now they are gone. I will be getting alot of pics pretty soon."

I sent him an email saying that those pics are stolen off the web, and that this is being discussed over here at ASC, and that I can forward him the links posted by VM.

Lets see what he was to say to that.

haha that pic of the m1 carbine is hilarious, u can tell that they cut it out of that green background shit on paint

"I can assure you this is no scam. I am sorry about this but i only have pictures of certain guns here. The BAR, thompson and carbine are from the web . I have attatched a few pictures of our guns taken from me. Some of the pictures wernt good enough to be turned into shots for display. People want to see what they are buying, and I didnt have anything from my collection of pictures to post. Please post these pictures on that thread if you want, you wont find these anywhere on the internet.

Again, Im sorry that this has changed your mind about us, but you must understand and I can get proof we have only been open for a week. "

HERE are the pics he attached to that email, I kept them full resolution, but had to compress the JPG quality down just aabit to keep em under the photobuckets 1mb limit.


http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a1...orp/modes1.jpg
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a1...rp/models2.jpg
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a1...rp/models3.jpg

Cheers,
Alex

There are metal peices on those guns like i have said before. The butt, and body are 0.09 plastic.

Here is a picture of the MP44 before it is painted.
www.ww2airsoft.net/stg44.jpg

you (if you are them) forgot about the mp44 being jacked off the web

What do you mean?

Alright, now that one of you guys from the store is here, I think I can stop posting emails and such here, and it can all be discussed right on the forum.

How in the world did you get that kind of worn/slightly even rusted (upper mp44) effect on the metal? And the pitted/dented/scratched wood on the MP18?

EDIT: bah nvm, I already got a reply by email.

i mean you said this "The BAR, thompson and carbine are from the web " however we did find the exact pic of the mp44 u had on ur site from the web, doesnt matter anyways, as we see pics of ur actual mp44's

Here are some pictures of the unbuilt models before they are painted.

MP40:
www.ww2airsoft.net/mp40.jpg
MG42:
www.ww2airsoft.net/mg42.jpg
MG34:
www.ww2airsoft.net/mg34.jpg
M1 Garand
www.ww2airsoft.net/garand.jpg
M1 Carbine:
www.ww2airsoft.net/carbine.jpg

are the m1 garands you are going to be selling aeg's?

Right now were still working on a system for ejecting the clip. As of right now it just shoots and loads clips. Were trying to get the functionality right so it can compete with its competitors.:)

Edit: Yes they will be AEG's.

Sorry I forgot a picture of the unbuilt Thompson and BAR.

Thompson (its supposed to be in half but I dont know what I was thinking)
www.ww2airsoft.net/thompson.jpg

BAR:
www.ww2airsoft.net/bar.jpg

Edit:
And also here is a video of one of our test guns being shot with a paintabll gun to show its strength.
www.ww2airsoft.net/090hits.avi

Wow, you built those (the ones I posted) models out of that? Impressive work.

Keep us updated.
Thanks,
Cheers,
Alex

Doesn't look half bad. Should really get your own photos however.

When producing AEGs, keep in mind that people prefer easy-to-find replacement parts as opposed to custom magazines. You should make them compatible with current airsoft magazines.
-VM

Um, what size of rounds are these firing?

Based on that video, where you never see the gun itself firing, the garage door appears to be the old wood structure ones. So if thats a 2x4 and you have a spread from the paintball to coat it, I am assuming you are NOT firing 6mm paintball, the spread appears more like the normal 25mm that a CT gun would use.

Also, those guns that you have posted up look like solid plastic shells;, meaning that you'd have to bi-sect them to hollow them out, otherwise it appears that the magazines will not be separate from the gun.

Based on the design of our guns before we get the internals put in, we need specialized parts because of the design. I will post pictures of the gearbox and other parts these guns come with.

So these are in fact rubber/plastic like the Blue/Red guns?

I'm sure someone would ask, thought I'd be the first - how would the pistols work? Would they be electric? Blowback electric? Spring? Gas? Gas blowback? Just models?

Thanks,
Cheers,
Alex

Magazine???

Garand uses a clip.

As of right now we just have the pistols set as models. We havent worked out the inner workings yet. If we were going to make the pistols into airsoft guns, they would either be spring or gas most likely.

Can we get a pic of an AEG being built, or in process?

Thats what I plan to do. I will be posting an MP44 being built as that is the latest order that I will be working on.

And Thompson :)

I think a key question here is whats your age verification process? How do you verify that the persons you are selling to are 18+?

Hehe yeah...a Thompson too. Well about the age thing, were going to trust our customers on that one. There isnt much we can do.

Cool.
Its true, there aint much one can do. I know that seeing how youre just starting out, you are anxeous to sell to anyone, please be vary of anyone that is obviously a minor, or mentions using these models for no good.

Let me know on that email I sent about a Cyma gearbox!
Thanks,
Cheers,
Alex

Is this Retailer trustable?
 

Hi, I'm not really new to airsoft(I do own a TM MP5A5). I've been thinking about getting world war 2 weapons and have searched around, gotten this site.

http://ww2airsoft.net/index.html

They have their stuff shooting at 410FPS with 0.12g BBs(No, I'm not gunna use 0.12gs, I know better than that), and looking quite real, and most of them are still under $200.

They are also stationed in Ontario, so they can ship to anywhere in Canada no problem.

So are they trustable? If you are going to say "save up and get a better one", please don't I've looked around this forums enough to expect that kind of answer. I just want people's opinion about the store's trustability.

boff there made out of plastic and they dont look to acurate to me, or they realy dont know how to make pictures for a website. If they can be trusted no idea.

Well you can ask to see ID and verify ones age, and if you dont feel a person is of age or wishes not to show you ID you can then refuse to sell to said person.

You might not think much about up holding the 18+ rules and in Ontario Laws regarding the sale of Airsoft, but most of us do.

Sitting back and saying Meh who gives a damn, I'll trust that person on the phone who sounds just like my 8 year old brother who says he's 18. There have been several retailers who have gone your route in the past, you might not be aware but they are not around anymore. Some of them received visits from Customs, others visits from the police. The rest when they saw what was going on decided to close up shop before they were raided. But its your $$ have fun.

Could you not ask for the user's ASC username to confirm that they are age verified and fire off a PM to them to make sure it's really them? In Ontario it would be wise if you guys did everything to cover your ass from selling these things to < 18.

What about customers that are not on ASC, or are 18+ but not verified?

We don't have a perfect world.

Im really interested in this. If it's legit or not.

and about the 18+ thing, I really couldn't care less. Kids would buy the guns through their parents anyway, there's really no reason to give both sides that kind of hassle.

just postin it Im not bein evil or anything

Well I am glad that I sparked a nerve in some because you all thought of things I didn't (again I am new at this).
I am 18+ (22) but not age verified so that proves ancorps point. But it is not hard to get age verified, I just haven't got to the place yet.
I think I will still reserve final judgement until I hear if Alex gets his Thompson, and to see the rest of his pics.

Yea, unfortunetly we don't have a perfect system. This issue has been beat to death and we still haven't come up with anything better than what we have.

Likewise.

Are you saying those are the model/airsoft guns? I have to say either these people are the best painters in the world or those are real guns. I personaly think those are the real thing.

So do I.

Ask them to post a vid of them firing it... Just an idea

Firing what? I'm buying the model one, not the airsoft one.

I'm inclined to agree. The wear and tear on those sure as hell doesn't look like wear and tear on plastic.

They say the guns are molded, and the wear and tear is transferred. I'm honestly not convinced, but em giving them a chance to prove me wrong.

Cheers,
Alex

I have a feeling this is going to get worse before it gets better...

"This package comes with a M1 Carbine, 200 BB's, eye goggles, 1 magazine and the battery and charger."
Quoted from their site, does this mean that A) the magazine is dettachable and B) I can buy more, because in the pic of the bisected pieces that were in the process of being painted it looked to me like the magazine was kinda built into the gun.

umm sucks to be you...get verified. i did it will show up soon, and yea you should ask for their user name and shoot them a msg and my eirlier comment bout the getting seized didnt know they were in ontario

Yeah, but you see, although its a good way to "try" to get away from minors, the ASC system is for ASC, no store is obligated to use it.

Personally, I am extremely dubious about what this company is depicting in their pictures as the actual items they are selling.
First. Take the MP44 for example. The picture of the so called finished product sent to ancorp, to me, looks like an actual real steel or high quality, highly detailed replica of a MP44 right down to the bolt, tombstone pins in the receiver, and the scratches from the safety. They have conceded that there is metal in these models shown, but the whole rifle with exception of the stock looks to be all metal. Yet, in the picture on the webpage, it looks like a resin replica. From further research, I found this site with the same picture of the MP44 resin replica on it.
http://www.a2armory.com/mp44-rifle.html
Are these the actual models they are selling or are they the ones from the pictures sent to ancorp because if so they are misrepresenting the product being sold.

2nd. A company is actually able to take 2 halves of a vacuformed plastic shell and turn it into a highly detailed, working AEG, and sell them for less than $200.00 dollars? Sorry, but that seems way to good to be true.

Would the owners of this company be willing to invite a local ASC member to actually see and use one of their product to prove me wrong?

Um, no, that'sa video of SOMETHING shooting paintballs.

Guy, for cryin' out loud. We WANT to believe this is real, but I'm having a real hard time with this. The photo's you've posted of the "unpainted models" don't seem to match the finished product.

We have been taken for rides in the past, and as such remain skeptical. This can easily be validated by having an ASC member have a look at the product - hell, I'd be happy to have a look at them myself.

Conversely, you could at least post some high-res photos that clearly identify the product and prove that you are in fact manufacturing them. Hell, I'd settle for a photo of the unpainted or finished product sitting next to a copy of today's newspaper.

Like I said, we want to believe. Help us out.

I dont think the prices in the website are for teh AEGS but for non function resin cast models. If they could get AEGS made, willing to bet we'll see higher prices for sure...but until we see it online with actual AEGS, who knows. from reading posts, they're still in R&D and not quite in production yet.

The prices are listed for both non-working replicas and the airsoft versions.
All under $200.00.

If one sells to individuals under 18, make sure you have one HUGE insurance policy to back you up.

LD

They offer the option for metal gearboxed models at a higher cost. Reasonably higher.

There will be photos of my Thompson being made, step by step, from the plastic parts, to the finished product. Hopefully. I've been told the parts have already been ordered, and are on the way.

Cheers,
Alex

"We are currently working on a deal for metal gearboxes. I will have to get back to you on the price"

That's what I got when I asked for a ballpark figure for the metel mechboxes.

well
 

Now I have figured it allout was looking the website with all the armor and shit and completely missed the ww2airsoft site. Not a huge difference between model and AEG.

Now in all fairness if they can produce a good AEG at those prices and they work, they better get prepared to make a lot of them, those German Mgs are making drool, hell imagine someone breaks into your house and you great them with one of those in your hands..feeling lucky punk? well are you? It'll have to be used as a club if he calls my bluff :P

Heck of a concept, I hope for them they can really pull this off as I think there is a market for it, I wouldnt mind some of their products and the rest of the ASC group will likely buy and upgrade the snot out of them anyways!

MP40 RAS
STG44 w/ 203
MG40 with Elcan

:)

Personally I'd steer clear of this place unless a known member gives it a good review (goes, sees, reports, . like how many of us are in the TO area? someone could check it out)...

i got bored and checked a few of the "rough edges" of the site and some subsequent google hacking..

site is regestered to :Adam Beer (cbeer1@cogeco.ca)
also known as Adam Labat, and blade1220 on some forums, involved in some game development projects, as well as some nice 3d models of wwII weapons

i'd like this to be legit as much as the next guy, love ww2 era models as well ... guess wait and see if ancorp gets his stuff.....

I'm useful! Hooray!

http://www.aboutleela.ru/scanart/sha...erg_hooray.gif

Here's my final $0.02 I honestly believe any retailer selling guns whether they are Airsoft, BB guns, or the real thing that is caught selling to minors should be reported to the authorities. Theres a reason why we are seeing as many minors in the papers these days, and these retailers who say theres nothing we can do about verifying age are not helping. That like saying well I have 40 kids nothing I can do about having more, BS.

They could be the kindest church going people in the world, but take the risk of screwing up the sport I play and have invested tens of thousands of dollars into. In order to make a quick buck off of me and, all of you out there that I consider friends in this sport, well I'll do what I can do shut you down if I hear or catch you doing so.

We are using UPS and Canada Post both of which have signature options. The best way for us to to it would be to ask and make sure the delivery people give the package to someone 18+. This has probably been done before, but I'm sure they wouldn't end up doing it. Otherwise, there is no possible way to do it.

I am talking about people outside ASC. There is no way to tell who your selling it to.

Doesn't cut it. There are plenty of ways to do it. All you have to do is WANT to do it.

Worth the loss of customers and extra time and effort to a new thriving business?

All Im going to say on this age subject, is that I will try my best to make sure I know who I am selling to.

Right now, it's leaning towards the scam side rather than the legit side.

I am glad I posted here, again I say.
I would like to say that although I haven't been age verified yet, I do agree with all your points. There are too many young people out there whose first thought is some illegal activity.
I myself, have had some friends of mine show how irresponsible they are. He kept it loaded, cocked and unlocked in his house and his girlfriend shot me from 4 feet away in the chest 1 1/2 inches below my right collar bone, on bare skin.
He is 26. So everyone can be irresponsible, but if they are registered with an airsoft site, generally they have a respect the rules and know the laws regarding this sport we love.

What was the point I was trying to make... lol

Nice necro!^^

Maybe this should be looked into? Is there a way we could try to make it necessary to check age verification through a registered site? Just a thought...

I asked about picking up my order and he wouldn't allow it... made me skeptical.

Now I haven't invested as much as this, I am new to this sport... (my boyfriend, Hectic, enjoys it so I thought I would give it a try and I love it) and I believe we need to implement some sort of way of ensuring that the AEG's don't land in the wrong hands.

If I were a parent, I would be wanting to know what my child needs me to buy this for him. If I knew my child was well behaved, and respected the rules and was using it for the sport, I would more than likely buy it, but it would be treated as a gun. Now if my child had been arrested, or had a violent temper, sometimes these things can't be helped, I might not be so prone to buy it. I guess my point there was -18, depends on responsible parents.

Sorry missed part of my point for my qoute but I would be upset if I sent payment to someone and my product never came.

The only qualm I have about the age verification process is it's difficult. If it were to go nationwide (as in ALL Canadian Retailers) and be strictly enforced, people who live in buttfuck nowhere get screwed out of a sport they may love. Not only that, but the long process of the transfer of information I've heard so much about (some people wait months for the verification to become official). Should the Age Verification process become a golden standard (which I am all for by the way, so don't get me wrong), the Verification agent coverage across the nation should be stepped up and the entire process should be sped up (as people tend to want to get right in to shopping).

An hours time span between replies does not a 'necro' post make, Mr. Crazy Sniper.

Anyway, it seems several orders have been made and we'll know soon enough what the score is. They might be getting a flood of orders or we may never hear from them again, who knows!

"Mr. Crazy Sniper"

Haaaaaa.... Funny!

Who else placed an order? Whats the point? I'm already taking the hit for the community :salute: :innocent:

If they provide me with convincing pics of my Tommy being built (which I'm sure they will), I will have no doubts about them, period.

Cheers,
Alex

I know of one other, but I don't want to say who it is, since it's not me.

If it turns out to be a ripoff, you'll have to handle all the "I told ya so's" by yourself, haha.