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HaZarD SFD January 22nd, 2007 21:28

The Magpull Masada!!!
 
http://www.magpul.com/Masada_inside.pdf


IMHO Fucking sick!

Amazing KG3 January 22nd, 2007 21:33

Ill take 9 plz.

HaZarD SFD January 22nd, 2007 21:36

I think we should submit that to G&G

Gryphon January 22nd, 2007 21:38

Why, so they can release a non-functioning competitor to the AEG that Magpul/Madbull will be producing shortly?

Amazing KG3 January 22nd, 2007 21:38

No way CA would do a better job. or VFC but theyd make it like 900 dollars.

HaZarD SFD January 22nd, 2007 21:39

Well fine shit on G&G lets submit it to CA then.. Hell even TM.

Amazing KG3 January 22nd, 2007 21:39

CA 4 life

Krieg January 22nd, 2007 21:41

I found this video..
YouTube - Milspecmonkey.com Shotshow 2007 Magpul Industries

That Masada looks very close to a G36.


PS:More like the bastard child of an M4 and a G36.

Not bad non the less

Gryphon January 22nd, 2007 21:44

Um, are you guys blind or just ignoring my post?

Ace of Spades© January 22nd, 2007 21:48

Im not sure Gryphon... I read that magpull was working with Madbull to make a masada airsoft version as well.

HaZarD SFD January 22nd, 2007 21:49

Nah we just dont like you!


Just think of a G36 Lower with a break apart upper along the lines of an M4, with
interchangable barrels for customization. Mag catch is sick, its also ambidextrous.

I personally would love that design.

Xepharo January 22nd, 2007 21:53

magpul
madbull

You know... they could be the same company after all lol just kidding.
Madbull makes great stuff. I might be getting the Gemtech Halo replica silencer soon mouhahaha

Gryphon January 22nd, 2007 21:58

There's a ton of pics on Arnie's from Shot on this gun. Looks nice, but let's hope they're smart enough to remember in Canada 18.5" is non-restricted. :p

Pip January 22nd, 2007 22:35

Yeah that is one sick looking weapon. I wouldn't care who made an airsoft version, as long as it worked and wasn't a piece of shit.

Droc January 23rd, 2007 08:29

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gryphon (Post 411902)
Um, are you guys blind or just ignoring my post?

Yah, the previous thread on this gun talked about how the company is making a RS and airsoft version of the gun at the same time...and my bet, will share many of the same components. Hands down, hotter then the SCAR any day.

HaZarD SFD January 23rd, 2007 08:50

Test Video

Kid January 23rd, 2007 20:31

I emailed Magpul about the SPR and the 18.5inch barrel length... Here's the response!

Quote:

We are aware of this and will make sure we have an 18.5 inch version.
:D

Amazing KG3 January 23rd, 2007 22:40

This Rifle is in GRAW 2 for all those wannabe mitchells.

HaZarD SFD January 23rd, 2007 22:46

WOOOT! I am even happier now!

Drake January 23rd, 2007 22:56

I've got more of a hardon for the Masada than for the SCAR. I like how thy used a Novesk style FH in the illustration in the PDF (wihout the FBP :P), that's sexy.

But my biggest concern with both the SCAR and this (airsoft versions) is whether or not they'll put out proper accessories for it (namely a 40mm grenade launcher).

This thing is everything the XM8 should have been.

Amazing KG3 January 23rd, 2007 23:04

The XM8 was a new body on a g36, it didnt bring anything new to the market, the XM8 has a deserved place, as the g36 would have done the same. you made a great point!

And yes this rifle is the mona lisa of carbines, i hope to see this rifle explode onto the scene unlike the MC-R. then again it used caseless ammo, so no reason why it didnt make into functioning model.

Yes this babe is in GRAW 2, has weavers to mount lights, optics and what not. Comes in ACU grey by the looks of it. Check out IGN or pick up a next gen mag now!

http://xbox360media.ign.com/xbox360/...9112804789.jpg

Droc January 23rd, 2007 23:09

^ that hud system on that guys is like a giant bullseye in the dark :)

The nicest thing about this rifle is how adaptable it is to the current system used by the US. As many issues as the armalites have, this rifle improves on the M16/M4 without being a huge step requiring changing lots of stuff.

Amazing KG3 January 23rd, 2007 23:12

id still put my money on the HK416. The US is more likely to buy from one of the biggest arms manufacturer in the world then an accessories company like magpul, then again they were pretty friendly with Crye when they developed Multicam.

Eddie January 23rd, 2007 23:30

For those who don't know guns. The Masada is not in GRAW2, that gun you think is the Masada is the Beretta RX4

http://www.berettausa.com/product/sp..._rifle_rx4.cfm

The Masada was only appeared at shotshow this year, there has been no word of it until now.

Gryphon January 23rd, 2007 23:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kid (Post 412378)
I emailed Magpul about the SPR and the 18.5inch barrel length... Here's the response!

We are aware of this and will make sure we have an 18.5 inch version.

:D

Holy shit are you serious? An American gun company is taking Canadian law into consideration PREEMPTIVELY rather than as an afterthought?

I don't care what it costs now. I'll buy one.

Yuu January 23rd, 2007 23:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gryphon (Post 412478)
Holy shit are you serious? An American gun company is taking Canadian law into consideration PREEMPTIVELY rather than as an afterthought?

I don't care what it costs now. I'll buy one.

And its non-restricted due to as new design, even better.

Amazing KG3 January 23rd, 2007 23:50

Oops, sorry about the GRAW statement, they looked similar but i figured its because the one in GRAW was based on old designs. Nobody listen to me im out of my fucking mind, or i cant see.

ToRN January 24th, 2007 02:42

If the barrels are replacable, and compatible with AR barrels, wouldn't it stand to reason that the Masada would be legal, since it can be fitted with a 18.5 barrel.

Nic

Goldman January 24th, 2007 03:10

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gryphon (Post 411913)
There's a ton of pics on Arnie's from Shot on this gun. Looks nice, but let's hope they're smart enough to remember in Canada 18.5" is non-restricted. :p

Gryphon, look at that thing. It is clearly a woman murdering kid eating monster and will most definitly be Restricted, get with the times ;)

ToRN January 24th, 2007 03:14

wouldn't you love to get out hunting with that bad boy? go after the tactical deer.

HaZarD SFD January 24th, 2007 08:04

ROFL "Take Cover its heading this way" Deer "What the fuck are those dumbass
hunters doing? Im going to take a shit and leave" Hunters "TAKE POSITION" Deer "Ahhh much better! They will love that downwind" Hunters "Oh shit Chemical weapons put on gas masks" Deer *Walking Away* Hunters "Fuck he dissapeared!"

Droc January 24th, 2007 08:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by Amazing KG3 (Post 412465)
id still put my money on the HK416. The US is more likely to buy from one of the biggest arms manufacturer in the world then an accessories company like magpul, then again they were pretty friendly with Crye when they developed Multicam.

the masada is cited at being a fraction of the cost of the HK416 or the SCAR...and we all know, its all about the bottom line.

Gryphon January 24th, 2007 09:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by Goldman (Post 412565)
Gryphon, look at that thing. It is clearly a woman murdering kid eating monster and will most definitly be Restricted, get with the times ;)

You forgot cop-killing, armor-piercing, high-powered, long-range, sniper-scoped, hollow-point, plastic-gripped, bayonet-fixed, grenade-launching, banana-clipped, deadly lethal assault killing weapon of mass destruction. Come on, haven't you been paying attention to mass media lately?

Kid January 24th, 2007 11:43

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gryphon (Post 412627)
plastic-gripped

Never heard that one before.

Gryphon January 24th, 2007 12:30

Well as opposed to traditional sporting and hunting rifles made with wood, if it has plastic grips it MUST be a modern high-powered semiautomatic military machine gun that good only for killing people. It's probably black in color too, or has some black showing. Black means you use it at night for killing people. You guys really need to start getting with the (liberal) program here! ;)

Kid January 24th, 2007 12:36

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gryphon (Post 412684)
Well as opposed to traditional sporting and hunting rifles made with wood, if it has plastic grips it MUST be a modern high-powered semiautomatic military machine gun that good only for killing people. It's probably black in color too, or has some black showing. Black means you use it at night for killing people. You guys really need to start getting with the (liberal) program here! ;)

It really isn't like the Conservatives have done any better lately... personally, I've been following and I'd much rather see the NDP or the Marijuana party in. (No shit!)

Not because of their gun laws... just because we need something new. Without losing Quebec.

EDIT - I swear I meant to write NDP and Green Party.

Xepharo January 24th, 2007 22:45

From Airsoft-news.eu

MAGPUL PTS: MIAD Grip
MAGPUL TPS ( Professional Training & Simulation Division) plans to present airsoft version of MIAD grip. MIAD stands for MIssion ADaptable, which is basically M16/M4 adjustable grip with replaceable front and rear panels. Price is TBA, but will most probably be around 50 EUR. Click to supersize, top left prototype of airsoft MIAD, other pictures are real MIAD.

http://www.airsoft-news.eu/e107_imag...miad_25_01.jpg
Thanks to Airsoft-news.eu for the picture.

Amazing KG3 January 24th, 2007 23:15

what picture?!?

HaZarD SFD January 25th, 2007 08:44

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xepharo (Post 412986)
From Airsoft-news.eu

MAGPUL PTS: MIAD Grip
MAGPUL TPS ( Professional Training & Simulation Division) plans to present airsoft version of MIAD grip. MIAD stands for MIssion ADaptable, which is basically M16/M4 adjustable grip with replaceable front and rear panels. Price is TBA, but will most probably be around 50 EUR. Click to supersize, top left prototype of airsoft MIAD, other pictures are real MIAD.

http://www.airsoft-news.eu/e107_imag...miad_25_01.jpg
Thanks to Airsoft-news.eu for the picture.


*Lost*

HaZarD SFD January 25th, 2007 08:46

Found

http://airsoft-news.eu/e107_images/n...miad_25_01.jpg

Spitfire January 25th, 2007 08:55

http://www.systema-ptw.com/forum/upl...lch/masada.jpg

enjoy

Xepharo January 25th, 2007 08:56

LoL...
I guess they won't allow us to hot link.
I'll find the picture and host it on mine then.

http://stealthcore.com/pic/thumb_mag...miad_25_01.jpg

Dracheous January 25th, 2007 10:56

I'll take one of each, and if they make that M203, one for every gun.



But seriously, that 18" SPR that's in the background, I SO want one of those.

Spitfire January 25th, 2007 14:20

by the way: the guy who made the patch for magpul was probably a stupid guy...

kdogg January 25th, 2007 23:44

God I wish I could have made Shot Show this year. I want to touch that Magpul gun so bad, I'm getting a hardon over here.

I'm so buying a real one the second they hit the US market.

Drake January 26th, 2007 20:52

Came across some "new" (from last week) pics of the Masada in several configs and sporting two different handguards (the RIS one is sweet)

Enjoy

http://demigod.org/~zak/DigiCam/Magpul-Masada/

Droc January 26th, 2007 21:00

awesome find

attack-beaver January 28th, 2007 21:50

whats with all these new guns being tan? what ever happened to just black?

DuffMan January 28th, 2007 21:55

Quote:

Originally Posted by attack-beaver (Post 414983)
whats with all these new guns being tan? what ever happened to just black?

Iraq

Drake January 29th, 2007 02:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by attack-beaver (Post 414983)
whats with all these new guns being tan? what ever happened to just black?

Well, check out the link I posted, lots of shots of it in black there.

That "tan" is supposed to be CB, too, I think... at least in the set I posted, it looks like my CB Grimlocks, so I guess thats what CB plastic is supposed to look like. And CB (and even tan) is pretty much a most-environment color.

Xepharo January 29th, 2007 14:22

Masada kit
 
From Airsoft-news.eu

Magpul PTW: Masada Body Kit
Mike kindly sent news straight from Taiwan regarding Magpul's Masada project. Masada is sometimes described as "SCAR killer" and is one of the contenders for title of the best next generation rifle:

Attached are MASADA's files for real gun. if you need more information of MASADA real gun plz visit Magpul's web site.

This news is from STW (Taiwan Company, Makes lot of multicam equipments) company manager "CYP". He just came back form USA shotshow. Magpul's personell told us some very shock[ing] news.

Magpul MASADA is planning to develop body Kit for airsoft! Motor and gearbox set won't be include[d], apply GEN2 gear box(M16,M4A1,MP5 type). Magpul will develop two type bodies, one is 5.56mm type (for M16 magazine), another one will be 7.62mm type (for AK47 magazine).

8thArmy January 29th, 2007 15:50

I agree it looks much better than SCAR

Drake January 29th, 2007 19:21

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xepharo (Post 415309)
From Airsoft-news.eu
Magpul MASADA is planning to develop body Kit for airsoft! Motor and gearbox set won't be include[d], apply GEN2 gear box(M16,M4A1,MP5 type). Magpul will develop two type bodies, one is 5.56mm type (for M16 magazine), another one will be 7.62mm type (for AK47 magazine).


I kinda like that, given that the Chinese bodies are usually okay but the internals are often questionable and people seem to want to swap them out anyway; go straight to good quality aftermarket internals and save money. There's another thread about Law Enforcement browsing ASC, but I wonder if a small airsoft-friendly company like Magpul keeps their ear to the ground by browsing the various community forums.

AK47 mag setup seems like an odd choice though, I would have thought they'd chamber for 7.62x51 if they're going against the SCAR. What's this supposed to be, a re-attempt at the SR47?

Xepharo January 29th, 2007 19:57

A re-attempt of the SR47 will be nice... AT A LOWER COST!!!
I wonder how much this kit is going to cost....

vondnik January 29th, 2007 20:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gryphon (Post 411913)
Looks nice, but let's hope they're smart enough to remember in Canada 18.5" is non-restricted. :p

Unfortunatly we won't be able to get export licence without an end user certificate like most of the fun stuff these days... Hell you can't even get an export licence for a magpul CTR stock...

WARFIGHTER February 4th, 2007 11:45

mmmm it makes me want to hold off buying my next gun until magpul releases that kit... Also awesome they are making a MIAD grip for airsoft... I think I love magpul.

Lakonian February 4th, 2007 12:03

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xepharo (Post 415456)
A re-attempt of the SR47 will be nice... AT A LOWER COST!!!
I wonder how much this kit is going to cost....

One that actually works properly would be nice too, imo. ;)

LoricTheMad October 18th, 2007 21:03

FYI, (Posted this in a duplicate thread after a mis spelled Masada resulted in a no match search)...

The Guns & Ammo 2008 Annual has a 5 page article on the Masada. I'll try to get a link if I can find it.

White_knight October 18th, 2007 21:11

i know its a necro, but i find it funny that i was looking at this exact thread yesterday, wondering about any new info. im assuming the artical is on the live fire version, anyone know the development on the airsoft madasa. also anyone know if they are still developing the airsoft pmags? god i hope so, im dying for some of those.

Drake October 18th, 2007 22:53

Magpul seems to be running behind in general.

I figure their PTS line takes second seat to the main stuff, so I'd expect delays or stuff outright not turning out (dunno how committed Magpul is to the PTS line, either).

Personally, I was hoping/waiting for their UBR stock to come out in PTS form. Doubt it'll happen, though.

White_knight October 18th, 2007 22:59

couldnt you just get the RS UBR stock though? id rather the Pmags first :)

Drake October 18th, 2007 23:29

I wish. Unfortunately the UBR replaces the whole buttstock buffer extension tube, so a made-for-airsoft version will be needed to fit airsoft receivers. PMags seem more likely to materialize, considering they already make PTS mags.

But then again, I dunno how serious they are about their PTS line. Specially when you have outfits in China knocking stuff off overnight. The lack of support/loyalty from the airsoft community probably limits Magpul's enthusiasm to develop new products for it.

White_knight October 18th, 2007 23:35

well they seem to be on top of the knock offs since haung is pulling his magpul stocks due to communication from magpul. sucks for us but isn't there a way to convert the buffer tube? oh well hopefully they release the AS version pmags and stocks :)

Drake October 19th, 2007 00:17

http://www.magpul.com/catalog/images/ubr2_04.jpg

It's supposed to screw into the receiver, as a replacement for the extension tube. The way airsoft receivers are made you can't do that. I'd be surprised if they bothered redesigning a PTS version at this point.

Too bad, though... so sexy

http://www.magpul.com/catalog/images/ubr2.jpg

Dynamo October 19th, 2007 18:21

where there's a will there's a way.
i could make it work in a week end.
frankly i hate the way airsoft M4 recivers have that back buffertube extension.
it could be made so much better.
also i could make a new type of expanding bushing that you'd thread the stock bolt through that would grip the inside of the buffertube, instead of the current method.
just tighten the bolt untill the buffertube is snug, then tighten the buffer nut.
i think i'll make a model in 3D and see what i can do.

White_knight October 19th, 2007 18:47

oh please see what you can do. im very interested in finding a way to do it.

Drake October 19th, 2007 18:49

The G&G receivers are actually "proper", and the forthcoming STAR ARs are supposed to be as well.

I know there's probably a way... going by a post Bruce made about the installation of the M93 stock (real steel), I could cut off the threaded portion of the stock and use the stock adapter (intended for the PRS but I'm guessing it would work with other stocks as well).

But then I'm looking at $350+ for a stock. Bigger problem is, according to some sources anyway (like Wolverine Supplies), the US gov isn't allowing the export of the UBR for civilian sales. The CTR stock is also export restricted, but there doesn't seem to be any problem exporting the Magpul PTS version of it, so again it would seem that in the end a PTS version of the UBR is my only hope of getting one.

Drake October 19th, 2007 22:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by DrakeriderCa (Post 558295)
The problem with the stocks is that collapsible and folding stocks are restricted export from the states right now. The PTS can come through, but the CTR and UBR can't, because they're collapsible. Same thing with plain jane 4-pos and 6-pos. They won't issue the export licenses anymore.

Magpul PTS is their Professional Training & Simulation line, basically airsoft versions of their regular products (such as mags, MIAD grip, enhanced trigger guard, and made for airsoft stocks).

I'm not sure how the PTS version of the CTR is different than the regular one (the price is the same, and it should be a drop-in replacement, really). But if nothing else there seems to be a supply of them overseas, so it is possible to get them (and even AirsoftParts.ca has one in stock right now, just checked).

A made-for-airsoft-receivers version of the UBR would be useless on real steel weapons, so presumably a PTS UBR wouldn't be export restricted (the US classifies airsoft as plain toys).

On an unrelated note, your username evokes a homoerotically-charged uneasiness in me.

zu1a March 18th, 2009 21:26

new pics!
 
check out the link i think this gun is coming soon. :D

http://www.airsoft-news.eu/e107_plug...2FMasada%20AEG

bean March 18th, 2009 21:49

That is the Chinese version its been for sale for a few months.

Omi-san March 19th, 2009 20:31

That must be a shitty AEG if the owner has to hide his face with paper bag and sit on top of a toilet while holding it.

Strelok March 19th, 2009 21:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by Omi-san (Post 943948)
That must be a shitty AEG if the owner has to hide his face with paper bag and sit on top of a toilet while holding it.

The reason he's covering his face is because they're violating copyright. Apparently they were nailed by magpul already
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Bondage Webcam

AnakChan March 20th, 2009 02:10

But Magpul PTS can't touch them. They're in HK whereas these are ACM. No shops in HK (esp Mongkok where PTS is located) would ever (publically) sell an ACM in fear of being penalised. But outside of HK OTOH (primarily UK and Japan), it seems reasonably easy to get the ACM Masada.

jdbl14 May 6th, 2009 10:23

If anyone out there knows of a "reputable" shop that currently sells these ACM Masadas and would ship one to me in Ohio USA, could they please PM me the info. I sent n email to EbayBanned about them and they said they no longer offer it.

ThunderCactus May 6th, 2009 17:24

I love that about magpul, you try to steal their brand name to move product and you get slammed hard and fast!

prepaidpwnage May 10th, 2009 10:53

my friend is visiting family in the Philippines and is gonna try to pick one up. Ill try and get him to write a review. Its been available over there for a few months now.

Conker May 10th, 2009 11:02

Well, it could have been availble in Canada if enough people were willing to step in, but unfortunately the risk was considered too high. Its cost would've been about 200$ USD/each in Canada, for an order of 200 Masada. But seems that even 200 is too much for the local market :(

prepaidpwnage, I don't think that you can export a gun from the Philipines, or so I've been told.

Amoki May 14th, 2009 03:28

For what it's worth, mine:

http://img25.imageshack.us/img25/1936/img0865u.jpg

http://scorpion-airsoft.org.nz/photo...9/P5010007.JPG

This gun is awesome.

On a side note, if anyone knows where to get lower receivers and extra barrel set for this gun short of buying a whole new gun, I will be extremely keen. Only takes 3 pin to change the lower receiver, and only takes 1 button to switch out the barrel. You can basically convert a gun to a CQB setup within 3 minutes in the field without any tool other than something to push the pins out.


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