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karbon August 20th, 2006 15:48

sling for ak47
 
I was wondering if anyone out there knows how i might work my way around the fact that only a right handed person can have a sling on an AK.

shadow1911 August 20th, 2006 15:51

lol if i had pictures of said ak i could help you make your ak permanently left there would be no going back how ever i am sure others know how as well

Greylocks August 20th, 2006 16:39

The (real) gun is not designed for left handed shooters; you'd get far too much hot brass in the face all the time. So it was designed as it is available in active service.

I dont think there is an easy solution that would not look crappy.

karbon August 20th, 2006 16:50

Well yea, not too many guns out there made for lefties.

Dracheous August 20th, 2006 18:50

what the hell are you guys talking about? I'm lefted handed with a rifle and this gun is perfect for me.

First go to a regular sling, none of that tac crap 3-point if your left handed on this rifle.


Grey, as for being designed for "right handed" people, I've a russian friend of the family who served 6 years in the Russian Army who says they're more lefties than righties over there. Also the selector is perfectly placed so that the left hand stays on the trigger with the right hand slips a mag in and pulls it to full auto. Though I do prefer semi and being able to just slap the selector down in a hurry helps :D


EDIT: Also the brass SHOULD rebound off the slide handle. Like it does on most of my semi-auto remingtons. **sucks being lefty with a lever action... specially when its your favorite action**

Greylocks August 20th, 2006 19:27

Well, since I have owned and fired a real AK, I beg to differ. The ejection port would be in your face (not good), and the ejecting hot shells would slam in the face of a left-handed shooter.
For airsoft, it does not matter. I was just covering the reasoning, mechanics, and history of the real thing.
Marui copied it, and kept the design quirks.

Dracheous August 20th, 2006 19:41

but I'm saying from my expereince with all my semi-automatic rifles and that I am left handed and refuse to pay an extra $1000 for a left handed rifle. The handle on the charging slide well deflect any brass casings from hitting my face or chest, other wise they just fly out over my shoulder. The charging handle is also longer on the AK than any of my hunting rifles.

I've only gotten a brass shell to the neck once and that was out of my .308 winchester lever action. I've since never snapped a shot over my right shoulder again. ((ejection port straight at me in the position... on the plus side I did drop the doe))

Greylocks August 20th, 2006 21:09

Drach, unless you have fired a real AK, you are speculating. It sends the brass at a sharp angle backwards and to the right, with force.

If you hold it in a left handed grip, your face is in the way.

Yes, many modern assault rifles have taken this into consideration, but the AK dates from 1947... A sling on the right hand side would also mean that the charging handle would dig into your body when slung. The safety could snag and release, too.

Key words here; I've owned AND fired one. I have owned and or fired Armalites, M14, Mini-14, G3, and Walther products. I know how they shoot from direct experience, not stories. Let's not argue this.

What this guy wanted to know is if it was possible. Yes, for airsoft, it's possible to do it because nothing ejects. In real life, it would not be done.
Marui copies real rifles in great detail. The clients (us) expect the gun to be identical in all details.
A left-handed AK would not be a true copy.

So can it be done with an airsoft gun? Yes. Because it does not matter. Is it easy? Somewhat. Is it realistic? No. So all he has to figure out is if he cares.

shadow1911 August 20th, 2006 21:13

hey karborn just a question are you right or left eye dominant???


there is a way to make a right side sling work to your advantage if your right hand left eye dominant like i am

karbon August 20th, 2006 22:44

um... I dont really know. Never thought about it.

I use my left eye mostly. But i can shoot both, left and right handed. I am dominantly left handed.

Edit: Yes, the gun is great for left handed people. fire selector is on the right side. changing mag and fire selection, is one flud motion.

thephenom August 20th, 2006 23:15

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Originally Posted by karbon
um... I dont really know. Never thought about it.

I use my left eye mostly. But i can shoot both, left and right handed. I am dominantly left handed.

Edit: Yes, the gun is great for left handed people. fire selector is on the right side. changing mag and fire selection, is one flud motion.

You can follow the instructions here to find your dominant eye.
http://www.archeryweb.com/archery/eyedom.htm

Farmboy August 21st, 2006 07:58

Blue Force gear slings will work for left handed shooters :D

CDN_Stalker August 21st, 2006 10:25

Arguing with Greylocks about anything real steel is like arming yourself with a marshmellow to bring to a gun fight. It's just something one doesn't do. Sanely anyways.

shadow1911 August 21st, 2006 12:05

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Originally Posted by karbon
um... I dont really know. Never thought about it.

I use my left eye mostly. But i can shoot both, left and right handed. I am dominantly left handed.

Edit: Yes, the gun is great for left handed people. fire selector is on the right side. changing mag and fire selection, is one flud motion.



OK try this put your 3 point sling on the right side(assuming you already have it) now place right hand on the trigger grip and trigger your left out front tilt body about 45 degrees and hold to left side

if done right the gun is actually rested on your chest and not shoulder

i would not suggest this with real recoiling rifle as i have been told it can crack the sternum i dont know for sure

Kuraitenshi August 21st, 2006 12:16

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Originally Posted by shadow1911
OK try this put your 3 point sling on the right side(assuming you already have it) now place right hand on the trigger grip and trigger your left out front tilt body about 45 degrees and hold to left side

if done right the gun is actually rested on your chest and not shoulder

i would not suggest this with real recoiling rifle as i have been told it can crack the sternum i dont know for sure

I find it hard to believe that it would crack bones, but I wouldn't want to try it. Its guarenteed to knock the wind out of u with a high caliber weapon.

shadow1911 August 21st, 2006 12:32

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Originally Posted by Kuraitenshi
Quote:

Originally Posted by shadow1911
OK try this put your 3 point sling on the right side(assuming you already have it) now place right hand on the trigger grip and trigger your left out front tilt body about 45 degrees and hold to left side

if done right the gun is actually rested on your chest and not shoulder

i would not suggest this with real recoiling rifle as i have been told it can crack the sternum i dont know for sure

I find it hard to believe that it would crack bones, but I wouldn't want to try it. Its guarenteed to knock the wind out of u with a high caliber weapon.


i dont think it would crack bones as well but do i ever wanna try it with anything that has a recoil no i dont

dead_aim August 21st, 2006 12:53

im also left handed and im still tryin to figure out how to use my tm sling for lefty use....anyone know how to??

Farmboy August 21st, 2006 12:56

Quote:

OK try this put your 3 point sling on the right side(assuming you already have it) now place right hand on the trigger grip and trigger your left out front tilt body about 45 degrees and hold to left side

if done right the gun is actually rested on your chest and not shoulder
You lost me, why would you do this?

shadow1911 August 21st, 2006 13:02

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Originally Posted by Farmboy
Quote:

OK try this put your 3 point sling on the right side(assuming you already have it) now place right hand on the trigger grip and trigger your left out front tilt body about 45 degrees and hold to left side

if done right the gun is actually rested on your chest and not shoulder
You lost me, why would you do this?


cause it gives better rifle aim for some one who's right hand left eye dominant

majority of people are same side dominant

right eye for aim right hand for trigger finger
or left eye for aim left hand for trigger finger

Greylocks August 21st, 2006 17:39

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Originally Posted by shadow1911
i would not suggest this with real recoiling rifle as i have been told it can crack the sternum i dont know for sure

That statement is not entirely correct. Small caliber rifles, and SMG, can be fired that way. It's unusual, but it's been done. Some larger caliber rifles can do it, but then the risk of injury increases.

It takes a LOT of power to crack a sternum, or a high amount of stupidity.

666 August 21st, 2006 21:25

Here's what you can try. I don't have my AK's in front of me now, so I can't be 100% sure.
From what I remember part AK-12 can be inserted into the gas tube both ways, with sling swivel facing right or left side of the gun. Try inserting it so sling attachment point is on the same side as a charging handle. Than secure your sling around front part of the stock so it won't slip and attach carabiner to sling swivel.

shadow1911 August 22nd, 2006 10:32

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Originally Posted by Greylocks
Quote:

Originally Posted by shadow1911
i would not suggest this with real recoiling rifle as i have been told it can crack the sternum i dont know for sure

That statement is not entirely correct. Small caliber rifles, and SMG, can be fired that way. It's unusual, but it's been done. Some larger caliber rifles can do it, but then the risk of injury increases.

It takes a LOT of power to crack a sternum, or a high amount of stupidity.


i was actually hoping you would set records straight i didn't know for sure the answer that's why i put up a warning of being unwise

Krusty August 22nd, 2006 10:44

If your looking for a basic Sling for the AK go to www.gunaccessories.com. Type in SKS. Their SKS sling is Black Nylon and made to fit Russian Front ends. They will ship to Canada no problem.

http://www.gunaccessories.com/ati/SK...s/SKSSling.jpg

August 24th, 2006 15:49

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Originally Posted by 666
Here's what you can try. I don't have my AK's in front of me now, so I can't be 100% sure.
From what I remember part AK-12 can be inserted into the gas tube both ways, with sling swivel facing right or left side of the gun. Try inserting it so sling attachment point is on the same side as a charging handle. Than secure your sling around front part of the stock so it won't slip and attach carabiner to sling swivel.

Yeah, if you disassemble the front section of your AK, the front sling attachment can be inserted facing to the left. When I first took apart my AK, I did this accedentally, and only found out when I went to put on my East German surplus sling. As for the sling attachment at the rear of the reciever, I havn't a clue unless you feel like taking it off and finding a place on the opposite side. Like 666, I don't have my AK handy (the library won't let me bring it inside :-D ) so I don't know how much space is availible with the fire selecter and such in the way.

Good luck with your noble lefty-sling quest, Karbon.

karbon August 26th, 2006 23:03

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Originally Posted by shadow1911
hey karborn just a question are you right or left eye dominant???


there is a way to make a right side sling work to your advantage if your right hand left eye dominant like i am


I'm Left eye dominant.
Hold my gun up to my left shoulder.


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