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leecas May 3rd, 2006 22:32

TM M14 to M1 Garand AEG conversions
 
I came across this the other day and I thought it was great. I'm sure others will find it interesting. The pictures are great. It's an alternative to the gas powered M1 Garand. It would be great if you have a M14 or if you can pick one up second hand.

Check it out.

http://hellsknightsairsoft.com/smf/i...45.msg78#msg78

^Hyperion^ May 4th, 2006 23:12

that's really interesting and since the M14 is a great weapon ( AEG , semi-full auto capable ) that would make the perfect WW2 weapon , good find !

Yeoman May 5th, 2006 00:06

great find. I'd love to pick up one of these kits for my ww2 kit!
Greg

attack-beaver May 5th, 2006 03:23

that is one hell of a find my question is what about the mags?

quikstrike May 5th, 2006 11:09

Very nice.

Now I want a freaking M-14 Even more. ARGH.

leecas May 5th, 2006 17:37

Attack, The kit comes with one shortened M-14 low cap mag that fits snug to the base of the gun. (hangs down about 1/4") barely noticeable in the gun. This can be used as a template for converting others if the owner so desires. The shortened mags are only 12 to 14 rounds, which is still better then the 8 round mags for the Gas Garand. Good news is they fit nicely in the Garand pouch web belts.

In addition to the shortened mag, obviously regular, low cap or high cap mags can also be used which clearly isn't right visually but functionally works fine. He leaves the shortened mag in for pictures and he says that he uses low caps when skirmishing. It may not look right but he's okay with the compromise. I would be too.

Lee

Stukadivebomber May 20th, 2006 21:09

wow this guy is amazing, I wish I could get the m14 and the kit for cheap. But everybody knows it's probably not going to happen

leecas May 20th, 2006 23:40

Yeah, I've started my search for a used M-14. Hopefully I can pick one up at a price that will not cost an arm and a leg.

Bender May 22nd, 2006 10:32

I recently picked up a G&G M14 and I am planning to modify it with a real wooden stock. After seeing this thread I think I'll go all the way and try to turn it into a Garand. I wonder if the G&G M14 is identical to the TM one? Will this kit also fit on the G&G M14?

leecas May 24th, 2006 12:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by Preston
I recently picked up a G&G M14 and I am planning to modify it with a real wooden stock. After seeing this thread I think I'll go all the way and try to turn it into a Garand. I wonder if the G&G M14 is identical to the TM one? Will this kit also fit on the G&G M14?

I don't know Preston. I'd suggest contacting him and find out. Whatever you find out make sure that you post it here and share it with the rest of us.

Thanks,
Lee

quikstrike May 29th, 2006 13:02

I have contacted him, waiting on a reply, just for a little bit more info on the actual contents of the package, etc.

In the process of getting my m4 ready to be sold, so the money I get from the m4 sale I will have enough to get my m14 and then this kit. So I'll let you all know how that goes!

leecas May 29th, 2006 18:24

Thanks Quikstrike

T.Smith May 30th, 2006 13:45

2ndBat is a good guy. I've talked to him an' read over the development of this kit on WW2 Airsoft boards. He's sure makin' progress an' gettin' this kit dang near perfect.

quikstrike June 4th, 2006 14:03

Still no reply from him. :(

My M14 arrives on friday.

Goldman June 4th, 2006 18:12

G&G M14s are not the same as TMs from what I understand. they may be similar in terms of mechboxes, however the magazine, and Hop Up systems are very different IIRC.

quikstrike June 4th, 2006 19:17

Yep, they are different, but I have a TM on the way ;)

the_zander June 14th, 2006 19:10

Just out of curiosity how much modification was required to fit the internals of a TM M14 into the genuine Garand stock?

Thanx:
-TheZander

leecas June 15th, 2006 00:15

Quote:

Originally Posted by the_zander
Just out of curiosity how much modification was required to fit the internals of a TM M14 into the genuine Garand stock?

Thanx:
-TheZander


Zander, I don't think that he modified the Garand so that the M14 internals would fit it but rather he add Garand parts to the M14 to convert it to look like the Garand. Hopefully, when Quik gets his setup he can give us more details and a review.

Lee

the_zander June 15th, 2006 19:42

my apologies for the confusion, anybody care to speculate on the modifications nessesary? i would really love to fit an authentic black polymer stock to my tm M14.

Thanx
-TheZander

Fader July 27th, 2006 16:06

Anyone have any luck importing this item to Canada??

youonlywish July 27th, 2006 16:48

I have emailed the guy.

He 'says'...

Thus far they have been shipped all over the world. The kit itself which includes everything you need to convert your M-14 into a very close replica of a M1 Garand is $300.00 US with a shipping cost to Canada of 16.00 US. Full instructions are included in a 21 page, step by step instruction manual with lots and lots of pictures. Everything is included in the kit including one shortened magazine that you can use to pattern your own conversions of shortened magazines should you elect to do so. They are designed to fit in the grand pouches and while they don't fit completely flush in the base of the garand look pretty good. They hold 12 to 14 rounds once shortened.

The complete kit conversion in it's most basic form takes about 2 hours of assembly time. If you are comfortable doing the basic filed strip of your AEG you can easily do it. The only tools you'll need is a drill and a hack saw (one 2 inch cut) or dremel, and a screw driver. There are lots of additional steps illustrated in the manual should you wish to perform them and the items required for all of them are included in the kit as well.


Here is a picture of a customer from Scandanavia. who completed the base conversion in a few hours and sent me pictures. And a great picture from a customer in the UK. Both depict the swap after a few hours of work. Both said they will do additional steps to further the conversion.

If you want a finished gun (assuming it can be sent to Canada) your cost would be $695.00 plus $22.00 shipping using a new Marui M-14 as the base gun.

I have both kits and finished guns in stock. For the kit you'll need either an airsoft club or Marui version of the M-14 to use as a base gun and I'll need to know which base you have so I send a kit properly set up for the conversion.

Thanks for your interest. I can be paid through PAYPAL at JDRobison@Aol.com or a cashiers check or money order can be sent to John Robison 4225 202nd Ave NE Sammamish, WA 98074 USA

John Robison
Hooah Airsoft

In a message dated 7/19/2006 10:32:40 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, nba_superstar_99@hotmail.com writes:

Hey there.

I've heard through word of mouth that you make an M14-M1 conversion kit. I have seen your kit and read reviews, I'm honestly impressed. Would you be willing to make/ship one to canada? If so, how much?

Cheers.

leecas July 27th, 2006 20:19

Too bad we can't order directly from this guy. $700 for the finished gun is a great price, even with the exchange. I want one!!!!

Fader July 28th, 2006 06:09

Quote:

Originally Posted by leecas
Too bad we can't order directly from this guy. $700 for the finished gun is a great price, even with the exchange. I want one!!!!

I would have to agree... It would be great to order a few.

Damn Customs. :-(

leecas July 28th, 2006 10:23

I wonder if customs would allow it if it was marked as a historic replica? Does anyone know?

Kid July 28th, 2006 10:32

Quote:

Originally Posted by leecas
I wonder if customs would allow it if it was marked as a historic replica? Does anyone know?

A antique replica as you put it would have to be modeled after a gun of 1895 or earlier.

...nice thought though.

Mapcinq July 28th, 2006 10:35

I have a real steel M1 Garand, and this looks very similar. (I'll try dig up some pictures or take new ones next time I'm at my cottage)
What an amazing job, and I cant beleiver he isnt talking to up more. Its defnitely better then a "reasonable" kit.
Good shit

Mustang019 August 3rd, 2006 22:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kid
Quote:

Originally Posted by leecas
I wonder if customs would allow it if it was marked as a historic replica? Does anyone know?

A antique replica as you put it would have to be modeled after a gun of 1895 or earlier.

...nice thought though.

Dont know if the 15 years policy work here, you know like cars. Just a thought like that.

Chibi-Force March 15th, 2008 22:18

Quote:

Originally Posted by leecas (Post 292469)
I came across this the other day and I thought it was great. I'm sure others will find it interesting. The pictures are great. It's an alternative to the gas powered M1 Garand. It would be great if you have a M14 or if you can pick one up second hand.

Check it out.

http://hellsknightsairsoft.com/smf/i...45.msg78#msg78

For some reason this link isn't working at all.
Do you think there is another way to get me the Page

beta678 March 15th, 2008 22:34

considering the fact that this thread is two years old... thats not much of a surprise... anyways, heres a link with what ur looking for, just scroll down abit or do a search for it http://www.ww2airsoft.org.uk/php/php...forum.php?f=13


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