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I began building myself a USMC OIF loadout. Already got the Marpat shirt/pants, PASGT helmet, marpat cover, Panama speedlace boots, ESS goggle... but when it comes to load bearing equipement I'm a bit confused...I'm short on cash, so I can't afford a repro IBA and MOLLE pouches and I was wondering if a Enhanced LBV would be a good match. I have only saw one picture showing a Marines with such vest.
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I'm sure you can find one on Militaryphotos.net...
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For OIF a standard LBV would pretty much be a no-go, IBA was/is the way they go these days. Maybe you could get away with the LBV if you were going for a force or battalion recon loadout for some sort of LRRP mission, but for a standard marine it would look out of place.
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You mignt want a SDS Interceptor OTV in Coyote Brown.
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Yeah as I said, the best would be a IBA, but I'm kinda short on cash these days... So I was looking for some other way to complete the impression
I actually found one pic of a Marine with LBV, but since I had only one, I asked you guy's advice. I could always go for a force recon look, but the standart PASGT helmet would be out of place, plus haven't seen any Force Recon in Marpat, only in 3-color Raid style BDUs. *Edit* correct me if I'm wrong it damn looks like a LBV... http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d1...ce/usmclbv.jpg |
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yea he has the usmc standard interceptor vest only in coyote, usually its woodland i thought, but they always have an lbv 88 slung overtop their interceptor. |
Yes, Marines do wear LBVs... over their interceptor vests, all School of Infantry students are trained with that load-out... but in the field as a grunt you don't do anything without a "flak and kevlar" your not allowed to operate or ride any military vehicle even stateside without wearing these. The vest is a pretty essential part to the kit. So, by all means you can pick up an LBV for now (make sure its the correct issue... i don't remember ever looking at the specific designation... kinda negligent i suppose) and just make sure you pick up the repro Interceptor vest. OR just save up for the vest and look at cheap molle pouches at www.cheaperthandirt.com. The LBV alone wont be that much cheaper i imagine and with the vest will probably cost you a lot more in the end. As far as the MOLLE pouches are concerned, standards are pretty loose and if you showed up with some OD on there you may get a raised eyebrow but thats about it... (and the older stocks of interceptor vests are old woodland but most newer ones issued are coyote brown, even for "greens" uniforms so its really kinda mix and match...) I hope this helps.
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Theres also a thread in the Reenactment / Airsoft / Paintball forum there labeled as "Pics of your US Marine Loadouts". |
and get your self a pair of danners. or wellco desert boots.
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Wow that's an old thread :P
Almost got rid of all my US gear and then bought everything again :banghead: |
I'm currently in Iraq and this is our new issued gear.
Coyote Brown Intercepter Vest w/ Neck, Throat, and Groin protectors 2 E-SAPI Plates 2 Dual Magazine Pouches (8 mags total fit in them) 2 Gernade Pouches IFAK (Individual First Aid Kit) Kevlar Helmet with Padded inserts ESS Desert Goggles ESS Ice Glasses Desert Digital Camis Desert Leather Boots M16A2, M16A4 w/ RCO (ACOG), M4 CQBR w/ RCO (ACOG), M9 No one uses LBVs out here anymore, they use MOLLE gear attached to their interceptor. We get issued a Super FLC vest, but no one uses them. Serpas are the common drop leg, but everyone pretty much uses whatever they had back in the rear, pretty even with shoulder holsters vs drop leg. Slings are mostly three point, but you see some jerry-rigged two points as well that function as 3 points. |
At the time I did that thread, I was looking for OIF1 loadout, and this picture is from that time as well.
I now own a full impression made of all issued gear |
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I pretty much have all this stuff already as Im going for a USMC loadout :D Will post pics once Im done |
I could post mine hehe
I based my impression on the I Co. 3/1 during the Fallujah insurgency http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d1...e/P1010030.jpg |
*Edit* correct me if I'm wrong it damn looks like a LBV...
http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d1...ce/usmclbv.jpg[/QUOTE] ya lol, i have that lbv :D |
This picture dates from OIF 1-2 (2003-2004)
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Yea, I don't see any pics or vids of the marines of 07 using any LBV's anymore they just stick to there OTV, Vince where did you get ur OTV from?
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pm'ed ;)
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does anyone make any interceptor replica's ? i dont really want to pay the full price for a vest that only stops BB's
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Replica goes almost for the same price than the real stuff. So why go for crappy stuff when you can get mil issue gear?
Are you looking for CB, Woodland, 3Clr or ACu Let me know, I have some good places in the States for any kind ;) (this is what happens when you had 5 IBA at one point...) |
CB is Coyote Brown right?
then its CB, where in the states? how much do they go for? Ps. Canadian dollar is pushing down the US dollar. yay! edit, which color they use? home and abroad? CB and what? |
USMC now only uses the Coyote Brown. The ones I can get you are the latest version of their OTV (full MOLLE back and front compared to mid front and 3 lower back row for the old). When I got mine the dolar was about .95 and got it for like 145 shipped. They are genuine unissued Point Blank. They are from the last batch that was made before the Corps decided to switch from the OTV to the MTV. They have small, medium and large in stock ready to ship. If you want the old school look you'd need to go for woodland but this is getting harder to find (happy to have recently found another one)
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these are the real thing? for $145, for some reason I'm skeptic about this. are they legal?
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100% legal, and yes they are the real stuff,
here's my old one (For your information I NEVER buy replica gear) http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d1...e/P1010322.jpg |
can you get the groin panel?
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I had one complete with groin, collar and throat protector but it's hell rare to get them complete as this...
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care to share some more pictures? on you and different angles of the vest? inside?
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I don't think I had more of this one, but I could get you some more of my woodland wich apart from the MOLLE webbing is exactly the same.
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sure man, i just want to see details of the vest, color doesnt really matter, as long as you could get me the CB color when i make up my mind.
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Given that the MTVs started getting issued, and that they use a totally different yoke/collar and throat protector, I expect we'll be seeing a lot more complete sets (or at least parts for them) being surplused.
If you fit into Small, Greentips had (and I think still has) a Spartan for sale. |
i doubt that i would fit in small, i have a fatty belly!!!
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Large would fit you fine then. I'm like 6'1'' 200ish pounds and adjusted to the smallest it was a bit loose (the newer model OTV are sized larger than usual)
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I have an older model IBA and it's uncomfortably tight with both plates in (so I usually just use the front plate). |
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As I know Coyote Brown OTV Interceptor have Repro only in CORDURA. but that costs US 80 ( without any pouch )... I got one from http://www.geocities.com/royaltiger44. but that's Good, with that part to Protect your important part.
Attachment 5373 Or you can find a FSBE ( with pouches ) as I saw this guys also sell it. but that's not CORDURA. |
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That's why size small is so hard to find, everyones wearing them! |
Need a KA-BAR for sure.
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i have an older style otv (point blank iba) and i freekin love it, however with plates its too small, cant get it done up. im a medium and its a large. figure that out.
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The older generation IBA (woodland, desert and CB) are for some odd reasons, sized smaller than the tag inside. I have a large desert (had a large woodland too) so when I bought my CB (newer generation) I ordered a large and it was way too big.
Now my medium ACU is as big as my large desert. GO figure |
Maybe Americans have gotten really self conscious about their size?
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So here's the real deal OTV
OTV issue AITES IFAK 4x repros SDS ammo pouches 3desert color canteen cover http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d1...e/P1010518.jpg http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d1...e/P1010519.jpg http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d1...e/P1010521.jpg |
Nice.
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Anyone try the OTVs from Opsgear:
http://www.opsgear.com/MOLLE-SPEAR-S.../cn-otvgsl.htm They look like decent replicas. Btw Vince nice vest. |
129$, for a replica? I never paid more than 120 for real ones. If you're going to buy an OTV I strongly suggest you to wait a bit, get more cash then buy a real, the quality is always much better, after all they were made for use in combat. Also if you buy the real stuff, it's always easier to re-sell
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2. Where can I find a helmet cover like that one? 3. I'd also like to know where you got that IR patch. 4. One helluva good deal on an Interceptor. |
Found thi article a couple of week ago. It's starting to get old and the pictures arte shitty, but it gives a good description of the Marines equipement of the Woodland camo (before digi-camo) ERA.
enjoys http://images.google.ca/imgres?imgur...la:fr:official |
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If you have some money to burn and want something relatively close to an MTV:
http://www.optactical.com/taapgrsp2iba.html |
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http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums...pictureid=1363 Oh and Drake... I hate you but I found some Spartan I for way cheaper |
Well I thought I'd keep my thread alive!
For all those looking for Marines kit here's a basic kitlist through different stages of OIF, I'm also only listing the regular grunts kit as I have no great interest in Force Recon OIF I 2003: Uniform: 3 colors desert cammies / desert marpat (although all the invasion was done in MOPP suit, no one should be stupid enough to play a game in this) Helmet: PASGT or LWH (rarer) w/ 3 colors desert cover or desert marpat cover Body armor: Woodland or CB IBA Load carrying Equipment: FLC loaded with mix'n'match of ALICE and SDS woodland pouches Boots: Tan Altama or Belleville 550 ST Goggles: SWD w/ socks sleeve Pistol holster: Really though to say if one was an absolute standard... M12, M12 w/ hip extender, privately bought drop leg Gloves: Cold weather glove liner (od), pilot flight gloves Weapons: M16A2, M16A4, SAW MKII, M9 Misc: M40 gas mask bag could be used as a dump mag, an old PASGT 3 color desert cover was sometimes layered over woodland IBA to obviously suit them better for desert use http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d1...ince/aap-1.jpg http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d157/pvtvince/aar.jpg http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d1...ce/usmc120.jpg http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d1...smc228_001.jpg http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d1...smc255_001.jpg OIF II: Fallujah insurgency 2004 Uniform: desert marpat Helmet: PASGT (rarer) or LWH w/ desert marpat cover Body armor: Woodland or CB IBA Load carrying Equipment: FLC loaded with mix'n'match of ALICE and SDS woodland pouches (by then most grunt wore pouches on the IBA) Boots: Belleville 550 ST Goggles: ESS Profile (black) Pistol holster: Really though to say if one was an absolute standard... M12, M12 w/ hip extender, privately bought drop leg Gloves: pilot flight gloves, privately purchased Weapons: M16A2, M16A4, SAW MKII (some modded variants were there too), M9 Misc: M40 gas mask bag could be used as a dump mag http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d1.../Falluhja5.jpg http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d157/pvtvince/aem.jpg http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d157/pvtvince/ard.jpg http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d1...weapons-ca.jpg Transitionnal (OIF III through OIF V) Uniform: desert marpat or tan pilot flight suit Helmet: LWH w/ desert marpat cover Body armor: CB IBA w/side panels (both early issue and experimental), Spartan I and II Load carrying Equipment: Mostly directly on vest (Eagle CB pouches, AITES IFAK, some SDS CT stuff and SDS woodland), althought some aftermarket chestrigs and vest seems to be present too Boots: Belleville 550 ST Goggles: ESS Profile (tan) Pistol holster: Aftermarket Gloves: pilot flight gloves, privately purchased Weapons: M16A4, M4, SAW (Para, MKII w/ Para stock) Misc: http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d1...ince/04_03.jpg http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d157/pvtvince/3-3.jpg http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d1...ince/46800.jpg http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d157/pvtvince/ank.jpg http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d157/pvtvince/api.jpg Current Uniform: desert marpat or tan pilot flight suit or Marpat FROG Helmet: LWH w/ desert marpat cover Body armor: MTV - MCAV (Eagle plate carrier w/ cumberbund) Load carrying Equipment: Mostly directly on vest (Eagle CB pouches, AITES IFAK, some SDS CT stuff and SDS woodland), althought some aftermarket chestrigs and vest seems to be present too Boots: Belleville 550 ST Goggles: ESS Profile (tan) Pistol holster: Aftermarket Gloves: pilot flight gloves, privately purchased Weapons: M16A4, M4, SAW (Para, MKII w/ Para stock) Misc: http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d1...-4999B-007.jpg http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d1...-1283D-100.jpg http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d1...89M-KIDS04.jpg http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d1...-1615T-005.jpg http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d1...MG_9732-Hi.jpg |
Great compilations!
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Where would i be able to find some sort of ALICE gear?
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http://redwolfairsoft.com/redwolf/ai...l?prodID=25443
Pantac made it!!! Though I'll personnaly stick with my PB IBA since the MTV looks way too fucking bulky for my liking... |
Little question about the sam-r. Are they based on Colt or on FN M16?
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it took awhile to get my M-40 gas mask and bag and longer to get my M-42 and mask bag!
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2nd attempt USMC woodland MARPAT
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Hey guys, thought i better post my pics here instead of the main US thread, seemed the sensible thing to do.
Just finished putting the last touches to my USMC loadout, I know the PASGT is wrong (older type of chin strap) and the boots are Black Hawk Warriors. (constructive) crticism please! |
Bootlaces, bootlaces, bootlaces need to be tucked in. This seems to be an annoying oversight common amongst airsofters. Police those sideburns too. They don't look good with the garrison cap.
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Is that issue MarPat?
I don't think Marines use/pack out quite so much molle pouches - as well they use OTV's or MTV armor rather than chest rigs. http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...st_Okinawa.jpg I believe the USMC are running the MICH 2000, however there's still a lot of pics of them using the older Rhino NVG mounts. Those are easy to get on eBay. |
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Cheers for the feedback, I had no idea about the bootlaces, will remember in future (will also trim the side burns)
It is not a chest rig! (it probably just looks like it because it hangs over my beer belly), its a MOLLE FSBE Armour Carrier Vest. The pics I have seen (especially with that recent Philippines excercise: see the below pics) the Marines are usually crawling with molle pouches. The MARPAT is from Bulle, and not official, but seems to be the right cut (the knees have inserts for foam padding, which are in the photos). The helmet cover is official (the official cover is the only one that can actually physically cover my XL PASGT Kevlar) and has the Desert MARPAT on the reverse. |
USMC are running the LWH, its just the same pattern as the PASG, but with an updated material to make it just as light as a MICH, but have more protection.
I would toss on a Rhino mount onto the helmet as well as maybe rethink the layout of your BA. I'm not sure what exactly it is, but I would probably end up changing it to ether a IBA/MTV/Spartan I or II or a SPC. |
Unfortunately the vest in the pic was the best I could get as a match at the time (bought last year) and it was expensive too, so i am afraid it stays.
Its not too far off in likeness to the ones the Marines use, but as you say, there is something... "off" about it when you compare. The Rhino plate is a damn good idea though, will certainly get one of them. |
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OMFG pre CB :D I remember that one on Ebay, I'm pretty jealous I must say.
Bought these to complete my CB IBA http://img300.imageshack.us/img300/8...7c12aj6.th.jpg |
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Vince, you're a maniac! Nice :)
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I prefer "collector" :D
Oh and I have no pics of it because its packed for tomorrow's game but I also received complete SDS CB FLC LOL |
Wow this thread has been pretty quite lately so... i figured i could spice it up a little. Here are some pics of my Pantac MTV (Christmas Present) enjoy:
Note: the grey stuff inside the vest is just some closed cell foam I put in to replicate soft armor. http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/l...o/P1161486.jpg http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/l...o/P1161487.jpg http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/l...o/P1161488.jpg http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/l...o/P1161491.jpg http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/l...o/P1161492.jpg |
Wow, really nice mtv, what price pls?
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Too fucking much ;)
For 30$ more can get a REAL Spartan II on OPS Tactical. But they are very bulky units, much more than an IBA or any other vest. Even Marines hate that vest and that's why the Marines are yet again looking for a new vest (there's the MCAV and Scalable armor currently in use in Afghanistan because they are much more streamlined and gives the troop better mobility without giving away too much protection) I'll say it again, anyone who wants to use current USMC kit but doesn't want the bulkyness (because let's face it, very few people are in the physical shape that the Marines are) and weight, just buy an Eagle Ind. CMS-PC and add CIRAS shoulder padding and voila! You have an MCAV |
Actually, as of early January, the MTV carrier is officially being replaced (plans are to keep the armor and replace the carrier; possibly the TAG Enhanced MTV).
As mentioned, the Eagle SPC is being used in Afghanistan right now by MEU and MTT. Apparently most Marines aren't using their MTVs. |
What ever, I like the vest, and don't find it that bad to wear. It should be noted that the build quality is outstanding. Pantac really out did themselves. It is also true that if it were not for the holiday season I probably would not have spent the money.
And Vince: 1. Because the armor in the vest is not real (soft), and the plates are fake, weight is not a problem. 2. Without the side plates the vest feels no more bulky than my IBA. |
What ever, I like the vest, and don't find it that bad to wear. It should be noted that the build quality is outstanding. Pantac really out did themselves. It is also true that if it were not for the holiday season I probably would not have spent the money.
And Vince: 1. Because the armor in the vest is not real (soft), and the plates are fake, weight is not a problem. 2. Without the side plates the vest feels no more bulky than my IBA. |
As long as you like it, that's what is important :D
I was just going out of my personnal preferences. But anyways most of the time I won't even play with body armor, FLC is still my favorite piece of kit. |
here is my start to a force recon loadout, its still a heavy work in progress, but hope to have it almost completed by the time summer comes around
some things i plan to get: desert marpat cb land ciras meu (soc) 1911 many other little things too http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c3...soft/setup.jpg http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c3...airsoft/m4.jpg any suggestions are welcome :D |
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Theres a guy on ArniesAirsoft named Grim who has done an FR load-out, I think you should contact him and he'll tell you exactly what you need. |
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thanks for the link wey ferro, was trying to find that one, and i also know about the arnies page, been lurking that for the last 2 months, slowly building a list of info on what i need. the info comes quick, its saving for gear that takes forever. :(
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oh yea and immortal dead recon marines wear flight suits under there vests cause its fire proof and there ieds in iraq
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Green kit
OTV + side pros FLC in CB with Eagle and SDS pouches Decided to do without the LWH for that game, took off the OTV on second pic and put on my Goretex http://i288.photobucket.com/albums/l...K__MG_0045.jpg http://i288.photobucket.com/albums/l..._MG_5849PS.jpg |
I just wonder aren't those PEQ II suppose to mount on the top of the rail to balance the gun ?
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it mounts on a 1913 picatinny rail but that's about as specific as it gets
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Since I don't have functional PEQ II, just only the battery box. So I just wonder what is exactly purpose of PEQ II beside the night vision laser compatible and flash light. I see people using PEQ but they are still using another flash light. KND |
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even if it had a flash light, what's wrong with using 2 lights? I would (only in real steal world though) incase one fails. In airsoft I just wanna keep my gun as light as possible.
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KND |
FR/MSOB/WhateverIsTheNameNow kit
-FROG uniform -MSA MICH TC2000 sz Lg w/ Norotos mount and various velcro patch -RRV in CB: Actually the rig itself is a TAG one (since OST had a great deal on them last month) with the following pouches FSBE2 Medical pouch (used as util) 2x FSBE2 Double Double M4 pouches 2x FSBE2 Frag pouch FSBE2 MBITR pouch Still in the mail FSBE2 Admin pouch w/ Flashlight pouch I rigged my Camelback to the back with 550 cord to make some sort and cheaper Spine Pack -PACA sz Lg in CB Gamed the RRV on saturday and I gotta say it's my favorite rig so far. (and since I'm a gearwhore, having issued pouches on is a plus LOL) http://i288.photobucket.com/albums/l...ft/FSBEkit.jpg |
Nice laod out Vince.
I am working on My USMC FR loadout righ now, will post pcs when It will be read. We have theSame MICH, MSA and a Lg me too hehe. |
still got that tan otv ? wanna sell it pm me please.
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http://i288.photobucket.com/albums/l...DSC_0446-1.jpg
http://i288.photobucket.com/albums/l...DSC_0447-1.jpg Note the issue side pros (have the inserts inside as well) |
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