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swmpthng88 March 7th, 2006 15:40

Which AK AEG?
 
I am getting an AEG sometime soon. I want an AK that is metal, and won't need to be upgraded first thing to compete. I'm looking at these 5:

> G&G RK104
> Tokyo Marui AK Beita Spetsnaz
> Tokyo Marui AK47
> ICS AK47M (Fixed Stock)
> Classic Army SLR105 A1

Does anyone own any of thses? how do you like them? do you have any other's you would recommend?

Skruface March 7th, 2006 16:30

The answer is right here.

stokes March 7th, 2006 16:34

So far Mcguyver (One of the most prominant airsoft mechinist) has suggested that the ICS is an excellent buy and out performs the CA and G&G in the ak category, and believe me mcguyver is very, ver,y very knowledgeable in the area of upgrading and aeg guns. So if I were you Id go for the ICS ak. They come with steal bushings and the new batches of ICS aks will come with their newly designed turbo 3000 motor the correction of the bevel gear.

Greylocks March 7th, 2006 16:58

Since I own two AK's, I'll say there is nothing wrong with the Marui products.
No, the body is not metal. But yes, it's a very good gun.
No, you dont need to upgrade it to play. You dont need to upgrade any gun to compete, you just need to learn how to use it.

swmpthng88 March 8th, 2006 01:49

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Originally Posted by Skruface
The answer is right here.

obviously if i could find my answers there, i wouldn't be here. don't think cause i ask questions that i don't know where to look for answers. this is a forum. people are going to ask questions, get used to it.

sam0182 March 8th, 2006 02:01

ohh...

DEA March 8th, 2006 02:52

From the point of view of a retailer that has been selling them, here's my PERSONAL opinion:

TM: Excellent gun, more than proven itself over the years. No metal body.
G&G: hmmmm.... not my first choice at all
ICS: Excellent quality, metal body, and hear very, very little negative feedback.
CA: Not qualified to say, as we have not sold much of any CA over the past couple of years. Although we have gone ahead, and placed an order for some inventory, it has not arrived yet, and It would be unfair for me to comment either negative or positively on the CA brand at this time!

Just my personaly views from a sellers point of view!

swmpthng88 March 8th, 2006 20:41

why is G&G not a good choice in ur opinion DEA?

TripWire March 22nd, 2006 02:08

I picked up a G&G RK 104 from A&A Airsoft in MB. I've seen the TM, didn't want to deal with the stock wobble. Have fired the ICS, very cool looking almost the same build as the G&G, but having owned an ICS M4 in the past I decided against.

I took a chance with G&G sure, but hell it was worth it. Most solid gun I've held to date. Power was there, it hit 349 on the chrony. Fired nice and straight out of the box. Most realistic to strip of all brands.

I tried the G&G, 30 round Star mag, TM and CA mags and they all fit and fed fine. I work at www.xtreme-tactics.com which is why I had so many different types available to try if anyone is wondering.

G&G finally got it right. You can trust them on this one.

Cosmonaut 1 March 22nd, 2006 21:51

I love my TM AK, but i can tell you my second AK is probably not going to be a TM one unless i opt for a Guarder kit (RPK). I've held and fired all of them. IMHO i liked the ICS AK 74, comes with the mount alright, nice FPS, all metal, remains to see what will happen in the long run.

Having said that, the G&G AK 104 really impressed me (except for the stock)

[Avtomat] March 22nd, 2006 22:06

ya i also recommend the ICS AK74M. Very good gun, and heard not alot of bad things about it.

Oh and the side mount isn't the right size. but there are many different mounts for AK in RL.

TripWire March 26th, 2006 02:23

Just a note on the G&G 104. I opened 'er up because I read in a review that the gearboxes are pretty dry. I found this to be the case in mine as well.

The internals themselves looked and felt great, but it was very dry inside. In fact some of the grease that had collected in little pockets were almost dry and solid.

Not sure if this is common amongst most makes, but I thought it was worth posting. Anyway now that my hop up is broken in the gun shoots around 369. Still very pleased.

-Trip

Droc March 26th, 2006 11:40

I own the ICS AK and Im extremely happy with it. Lemon motor, but aside from that, excellent gun.
Better trades then the G&G and the G&G has a wack threaded barrel. It got average reviews, but nothing spectacular.
It took me some time to decide between the ICS and the G&G AKs but the ICS seemed to be the winner.

TripWire March 27th, 2006 04:07

Yeah the G&G has a 20mm threading which doesn't help when the majority of the velocity reducers and supressors are 14mm. I did hear that there is a 20mm PBS-5 that will fit though.

JessIe April 3rd, 2006 15:16

I hear the ICS AK47 is a good gun. Very reliable.

v82slo April 3rd, 2006 15:24

I was planning to get the ICS AK74 but opted for a TM AK47 full stock.

Why? The TM AK has more history and is a tried and tested gun on the airsoft field. It is well used and a stable design while the ICS gun is new and still has a few bugs to work out. For the price I got my TM for I can upgrade to full metal and still have some money left to throw some wood stock on, compared to the ICS gun.

The biggest selling point was having a AK that looked traditional with wooden hardware. The ICS AK74 looks nice but if I wanted another all black gun there are a few other options.

Dozer_01 April 3rd, 2006 15:32

Blackthorne has a G&G RK104. May want to ask him about it.

It sounded pretty nice when i heard it firing :D

Krusty July 26th, 2006 17:43

AK
 
I've got both the ICS AK74 and the G&G both are nice AEG but the ICS version is better. The G&G stock shifts and has weeker internal parts than the ICS. I think ICS has taken the time to build a stock AEG that dosen't require any upgrades to shoot well. And to spare them from having unqualified gunsmiths drilling holes in the bodies they added the scope rail for you. The G&G costs more also. :smack: I put a metal piston head in my ICS AK with a spring upgrade and she just pounds the balls out. :-D

Greylocks July 26th, 2006 18:57

Ahhh, yes. Another revived old post.
When you find something that has been dead for weeks, months or years, it's okay to not reply to it.

Kid July 26th, 2006 19:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by Greylocks
Ahhh, yes. Another revived old post.
When you find something that has been dead for weeks, months or years, it's okay to not reply to it.

Everyone is new to a forum at some point.

When I first came here, I revived two three year old threads and got flamed on both. After that, I realized that I had been reading into the archives too far and I began to look at dates on threads.

It's a learning experience.

kuchervano July 26th, 2006 20:53

Unless you tell them, they will never know...
AK: ICS, TM, everything else.

Bandit July 26th, 2006 23:17

I've had my Beta for almost a year now and I am very happy with it.

nemesis_83 July 28th, 2006 15:29

From reading all of the reviews my first AEG will be the ICS AK74M, well not exactly my first, as some of you may remember I had a UTG MP5 and a TM AK47 that I had to get rid of because of a financial crisis I ran in to, well I'm happy to say I am making a comeback to airsoft, that said I plan on the purchase of the ICS, nothing like the feeling of an all cold metal black AK in your hands.

I look forward to seeing some of you guys at games later on this year.

<Ez-Target> August 11th, 2006 15:52

ummmm i have a tm ak and i personally love it.. it shoots accurate but it could do with some more fps
the ics is not the gun for me,, but i like the more classical wooden style

Droc August 11th, 2006 17:56

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Originally Posted by <Ez-Target>
the ics is not the gun for me,, but i like the more classical wooden style


Its like not buying a sweet car because you dont like the rims...

it wont be long before aftermarket wood kits start comming out for it.

Kid August 11th, 2006 19:01

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Originally Posted by Droc
Quote:

Originally Posted by <Ez-Target>
the ics is not the gun for me,, but i like the more classical wooden style


Its like not buying a sweet car because you dont like the rims...

it wont be long before aftermarket wood kits start comming out for it.

ICS is making their own guns come stock with wood soon anyway... so is Classic Army.

Search for more info... there was pictures and new models.

Identity August 11th, 2006 19:03

Quote:

Originally Posted by v82slo
I was planning to get the ICS AK74 but opted for a TM AK47 full stock.

Why? The TM AK has more history and is a tried and tested gun on the airsoft field. It is well used and a stable design while the ICS gun is new and still has a few bugs to work out. For the price I got my TM for I can upgrade to full metal and still have some money left to throw some wood stock on, compared to the ICS gun.

The biggest selling point was having a AK that looked traditional with wooden hardware. The ICS AK74 looks nice but if I wanted another all black gun there are a few other options.

Ahh yes the same deal i spotted out. Does it come with a 2 Hicaps and metal upgrade + Gearbox upgrades? :wink:

For 450?

sukivan August 11th, 2006 19:32

Quote:

Originally Posted by Identity
Quote:

Originally Posted by v82slo
I was planning to get the ICS AK74 but opted for a TM AK47 full stock.

Why? The TM AK has more history and is a tried and tested gun on the airsoft field. It is well used and a stable design while the ICS gun is new and still has a few bugs to work out. For the price I got my TM for I can upgrade to full metal and still have some money left to throw some wood stock on, compared to the ICS gun.

The biggest selling point was having a AK that looked traditional with wooden hardware. The ICS AK74 looks nice but if I wanted another all black gun there are a few other options.

Ahh yes the same deal i spotted out. Does it come with a 2 Hicaps and metal upgrade + Gearbox upgrades? :wink:

For 450?

what?

JimmyP056 August 11th, 2006 20:11

Quote:

Originally Posted by v82slo
I was planning to get the ICS AK74 but opted for a TM AK47 full stock.

Why? The TM AK has more history and is a tried and tested gun on the airsoft field. It is well used and a stable design while the ICS gun is new and still has a few bugs to work out. For the price I got my TM for I can upgrade to full metal and still have some money left to throw some wood stock on, compared to the ICS gun.

The biggest selling point was having a AK that looked traditional with wooden hardware. The ICS AK74 looks nice but if I wanted another all black gun there are a few other options.

First off, ICS is the way to go, it has good reliable parts (same as TM) but with a pretty much all metal body, you could replace the stock and front hand grip with wooden parts if you wished, though you would have to hollow out the stock if you did so. i would recommend getting a wood front hand grip with the ICS AK74m, and the paint the stock to be 'Mock' wood.

MMMiles! August 11th, 2006 22:00

The CA AK is cosmetically better than the ICS, I would say. Both have good weight to them, and feel sturdy, but the finish and details on the CA are a bit better. Outwardly, very equal guns, though.

Internally, I don't have enough experience to say.

JimmyP056 August 12th, 2006 00:27

Well, airsoft is an investment, a CA AK74 is cosmettically better so not much different, so why not pay less, besides you can always customize it yourself to make it look nice ;-)

Red_Star August 12th, 2006 01:01

I just got my ICS AK 74 last week, and so far I like the way it feels and looks. The weight is perfect and I like the fact that it is all black. Been shooting a bit at targets in my basement and so far it looks like it is quite accurate, still have to test it out at a game tho.

MMMiles! August 12th, 2006 13:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by JimmyP056
Well, airsoft is an investment, a CA AK74 is cosmettically better so not much different, so why not pay less, besides you can always customize it yourself to make it look nice ;-)


They are the same price, at least through ASC Armoury.

Although I take back what I said about them being equal... the CA may look nicer, but the ICS has nearly a kilo of extra weight on it. Different metal compound, thicker metal body? Not sure, but something to consider.

Whyski July 19th, 2007 12:34

hm, its curious what your write here abotu the ICS AK. I knew 4 people in our Airsoft community that have bought them, and all of them havent work properly, and were out of game for couple of months, before all internal problems were solved. Nice gun, but I woulnd buy it.

Lakonian July 19th, 2007 12:49

NECRO!!

The ICS AK74M is amazing. I own one, and will probably never, ever sell it. Shoots great, looks great, and purrs. Doesn't sound like any TM gun I've ever fired. Weighs a bit much though..

ancorp July 19th, 2007 13:10

Quote:

Originally Posted by kos (Post 504670)
NECRO!!

...Weighs a bit much though..

Pussy.

Lakonian July 19th, 2007 13:15

Quote:

Originally Posted by ancorp (Post 504676)
Pussy.

Well, when you gotta get to the "ready position", it feels sloppy. But, it makes up for it's sloppiness in it's sound... *drool*

silent_recon July 19th, 2007 17:05

being an owner of the ICS ak74m, i have to say, its a very very great gun to shoot, you wont be disapointed with it

Vivisector July 19th, 2007 17:37

Quote:

Originally Posted by kos (Post 504670)
NECRO!!
Weighs a bit much though..

Comrade, this is known as the "weight of progressive weaponry". It is normal.


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