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iceman3994 July 29th, 2013 13:25

Zulu 1 Military Simulations
 
Good morning. I came across a company in Alberta and just wanted to see if anyone has heard of them at all.

www.zulu1militarysimulation.com

Have a look

Styrak July 29th, 2013 14:38

Dark grey text on black background?

Wow that's bad.

pusangani July 29th, 2013 15:36

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Originally Posted by Styrak (Post 1819575)
Dark grey text on black background?

Wow that's bad.

At least they're "pationate" lol

FOX_111 July 29th, 2013 16:47

The text color is not that bad. Maybe your screen is not calibrated.

As for the company itself, I never saw them before and I don't really know who is their intended market and how they will serve it.

Drake July 29th, 2013 17:21

Too bad they're so far, I'd check em out (there's a serious void of milsims locally this year)

Aper July 29th, 2013 17:31

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Originally Posted by Drake (Post 1819633)
(there's a serious void of milsims locally this year)

^ This.

Conker July 29th, 2013 18:19

Drake, didn't you have plans to organize one? Go ahead, we're all ears! :D

Aquamarine July 29th, 2013 23:40

I wonder if these guys are related to either the pipe-bomb-builder or that rancher who was trying to mix paintball and airsoft on the same field at the same time wit the same objectives. Now THAT was a clusterfuck.

J-Man19 July 30th, 2013 00:25

Fly out for risky sun and get your milsim fix. Vehicles, pyro and night game oh my!

Drake July 30th, 2013 02:32

Quote:

Originally Posted by Conker (Post 1819650)
Drake, didn't you have plans to organize one? Go ahead, we're all ears! :D

There are several projects, but given the current conditions don't hold your breath.

GBBR July 30th, 2013 02:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by Drake (Post 1819633)
Too bad they're so far, I'd check em out (there's a serious void of milsims locally this year)

come to Ontario!

J-Man19 July 30th, 2013 09:41

Did some research. One of the RAAT guys in red deer knows this guy. Talks big game about milsim but in the 7 years he's been in Alberta hasn't come out to any of the big games.Buddy has seen him twice at games.

Drake July 30th, 2013 13:51

That's disappointing.

Zulu 1 August 13th, 2013 00:00

Well wha'dya know despite the nay sayers it seems this game is happening!!

https://www.facebook.com/events/164794520377902/

prices for game up soon

mcguyver August 13th, 2013 00:07

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Originally Posted by J-Man19 (Post 1819860)
Did some research. One of the RAAT guys in red deer knows this guy. Talks big game about milsim but in the 7 years he's been in Alberta hasn't come out to any of the big games.Buddy has seen him twice at games.

Sounds alot like me.

I never go to milsims. Like, ever.

I looked at the roster, only a few guys I know.

Zulu 1 August 13th, 2013 01:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by mcguyver (Post 1824247)
Sounds alot like me.

I never go to milsims. Like, ever.

I looked at the roster, only a few guys I know.

Give it time - mcguyver give it time.;)

Wrath144 August 13th, 2013 01:46

Zulu 1, what is your relationship with Tier 1?

Zulu 1 August 13th, 2013 02:01

ed is a good mate of mine.

Zulu 1 and Tier 1 are combining resources to bring the as real as it gets immersion milsim event and more to Canada.

Wrath144 August 13th, 2013 02:09

I've been following Tier 1 events on youtube as much as I can, and I must say they are some of the most intense and awesome looking games I've been able to find. If you can put on an event of similar calibre on this side of the pond, I would be there.
People flaming are ignorant douchebags.

Zulu 1 August 13th, 2013 02:26

We are more than just putting on a similar event, ed and his DS consisting of former and current Royal Marine commando instructors plus my DS will be conducting rural and CQC training for 12hrs plus a 24hr event.
But it's up to the milsim enthusiast to vote with their attendance. Without you the player there will be no event.

We are only looking for the most committed

This will be a full modern soldier roleplay experience!!

Reignman August 13th, 2013 07:16

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Originally Posted by Drake (Post 1819633)
Too bad they're so far, I'd check em out (there's a serious void of milsims locally this year)

We are definitely feeling the lack of games this year. As a team we have started heading to more US games to make up for it though.

Well if you head a little West Drake you can come out to Nightfall next year :p

It's a shame the LZ in Ottawa is no more, really enjoyed the field and could always count on at least 3 games a season from them. With Kokanee gone as well it's taken a host from the area too :(

Force Recon will be meeting up in October to discuss NF3 and the possibility of hosting a second Milsim game for next year.

Janus August 13th, 2013 10:36

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If arriving at 10 am and finishing at 4pm aimlessly running around a piece of woodland somewhere, clad from head to foot in any load-out, regardless of the tactical environment and expend industrial amounts of bb’s … If getting wet and cold has you heading for the the parking lot…If waiting in ambush up to your chin in dirt and water has you heading for an early bath….

Then please do not sign up.
Cool attitude, bro. Myself, I've got no problem laying up to my eyeballs in mud and shit for hours waiting for that perfect moment to unload my 40mm but you're basically driving away the casual player with this instead of trying to bring them into something a bit more intense.

Zulu 1 August 13th, 2013 11:50

I think you may have missed the point Janus - there are many Milsim games available for the "casual player" the aim is to raise the bar to a level of combat operation a level that the casual player will/could aspire to. I will not apologise for having a standard it is fully explained in my website for that reason, do not expect lunch breaks or walks back to the car for more bb's

Funny i hear may times, wish we had the games like europe/uk does... well here we are gents you now have the choice

Zulu 1 August 15th, 2013 02:25

For those interested and that have not seen the website or fb page

ZULU 1 MILITARY SIMULATION Ltd. and TIER 1 MILITARY SIMULATION Ltd. are extremely proud to present Operation SILVERTIP.

After 18 months of setting up and working out the logistics to enable TIER 1 to operate with our sister organisation running the same level of military simulation events as we do here in the UK, we are now ready to stage our first joint event with ZULU 1 in Canada.

Warning Order
...
This will be a 36hr ZULU 1 & TIER 1 RURAL COMBAT & TRAINING OPERATION.

Location: Golden, British Columbia - CANADA

The event will take place in a massive valley located in the beautiful Rocky Mountain Trench. The event site is situated not far from the town of Golden in British Colombia - Canada.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rocky_Mountain_Trench

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden,_British_Columbia

The Area of Operations (AO) is a huge 600 acre site comprising of dense forest, deep swamps, marshland, mountain rivers, a disused quarry with multiple derelict compounds, buildings and structures dotted throughout.

Also there are a multitude of tracks and roads that crisscross the area and all of that is surrounded by snow capped mountains.

Date: 20 - 22 September 2013

PHASE 01: Combat Training

The training phase will begin early Friday morning with Rural Combat Training as instructed by our serving and former Royal Marines Commando instructors.

The training will cover many aspects of operating in a rural environment and elements of Modernised Urban Combat (MUC) for the CQC phase(s).

The training will run all day and follow a progressive format which will finish with several stances after last light.

On completion of the training phase all operators will be able to finalise their equipment and undertake several hours of enforced rest before we move into phase 02 and the 24hr combat operation.


PHASE 02: Combat Operation

The combat operation will run straight through from the early hours of Saturday morning until END EX around midday on the Sunday.

Scenario to follow soon.

Although this is primarily for the Canadian Milsim community, we are willing to open this event up to operators from the UK and EU. Please PM or email:

info@zulu1militarysimulation.com

should you wish to partake and or have any questions.

All teams are to be complete on site no later than 09:00hrs Friday 20 September. Teams arriving later or wishing to arrive the evening before will have to notify ZULU 1 prior to this event.

Safety and administrational briefs will take place on Friday morning at 10:00hrs. Phase 01 will begin on completion.

Phase 01 and the training will finish after around 12hrs and on completion there will be a comprehensive debrief which will be followed by battle preparation and enforced rest.

During the early hours of saturday morning opposing forces will move to their respective tactical assembly areas (TAA) and await intelligence briefs and initial orders.

This will be followed by confirmatory orders for the relevant elements and team leaders.

All players will be in the correct sections and will have been allocated radios to communicate with your command elements by 06.00hrs.

From this point on, there will not be a safe zone in operation in the game until END EX and the game will only stop for an emergency.

ALL elements will deploy onto the ground during the early hours of Saturday morning.


RED FORCE

Insurgents: 8 places.
Militia: 50 places.

Uniform Requirements: Traditional Middle Eastern style militia / local Dress where possible. You can wear a civilian/military mix, OD, Tan and Black, but please do not turn up looking like an american PSD operator. You should be thinking tactically in terms of your clothes and their colours etc. ABSOLUTELY NO Multicam, ACU, US Woodland. You will be asked to change out of them.


BLUE FORCE

Reconnaissance troop, A Squadron, 1st Special Forces Operational Detachment-Delta (1st SFOD-D): - 20 places.
US RANGERS Bravo Company, 3rd Battalion, 75th Ranger Regiment - 40 places.

Uniform Requirements: Multicam, MARPAT (Green), AOR 2, US Woodland and DPM.


Players will be required to bring the right kit to last the duration in the field - tactically. (see the TIER 1 recommended kit list.)

You will need to bring all your own food and water and the means to cook with.

You will have to carry with you everything you need into the field. ie. In a bergen.

We will provide squad and platoon level radios for both sides - inter-squad radios - you will need to bring yourself.


Cost & Travel: Please enquire via PM or email

For further information please contact - info@zulu1militarysimulation.com / paul.clarke@zulu1militarysimulation.com


THERE WILL NOT BE ANY REGENS IN PLAY. MEDIC RULES WILL APPLY THROUGHOUT.

THE EVENT WILL RUN FROM FRIDAY MORNING UNTIL SUNDAY LUNCHTIME. ALL REST AND FOOD REQUIREMENTS WILL NEED TO BE UNDERTAKEN SEMI/TACTICALLY THROUGHOUT THIS EVENT.

Aquamarine August 15th, 2013 03:29

Cost? I'd like it publicly stated, please.

Quote:

ALL... FOOD... WILL NEED TO BE UNDERTAKEN ...TACTICALLY
This made me giggle.

DrunkenTeddy August 15th, 2013 04:06

I think this one was something like $180. Not 100% certain but that's what I remember...

Zulu 1 August 15th, 2013 10:12

Quote:

Originally Posted by FatJ (Post 1824992)
I think this one was something like $180. Not 100% certain but that's what I remember...

Quick fatJ go buy a lotto ticket !!! if you know the cost before it's published you're in for a chance!! price being worked on published friday

aquamarine making it here from osaka?

Zulu 1 August 15th, 2013 10:13

[QUOTE=Zulu 1;1825032]Quick fatJ go buy a lotto ticket !!! if you know the cost before it's published you're in for a chance!! price being worked on published friday

aquamarine making it here from asakusa?

Zulu 1 August 15th, 2013 10:15

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Originally Posted by Aquamarine (Post 1824989)
Cost? I'd like it publicly stated, please.



This made me giggle.

ever had to cook without a raging fire and not give away your position? ever run a "hard routine" ?

DrunkenTeddy August 15th, 2013 10:43

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zulu 1 (Post 1825036)
ever had to cook without a raging fire and not give away your position? ever run a "hard routine" ?

Ah, your milsim sounds too much like another one going on at Golden. I assumed they were the same.

Aquamarine August 15th, 2013 23:11

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zulu 1 (Post 1825036)
ever had to cook without a raging fire and not give away your position? ever run a "hard routine" ?

Yep.
Of course, I've been MilSim'ing since 1998 so... yea.

Am I going to make the trip? Well since your event is coming up so quickly and you're not offering a lot of info on it, such as price, there's a distinct possibility I will skip it.

Reignman August 16th, 2013 00:40

Posting an event without a price worked out ahead of time just seems silly to me. Nothing like getting people worked up, intrigue them, then drop the price bomb. Things like that should be worked out prior to posting an event of such scale.

Zulu 1 August 16th, 2013 03:09

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reignman (Post 1825331)
Posting an event without a price worked out ahead of time just seems silly to me. Nothing like getting people worked up, intrigue them, then drop the price bomb. Things like that should be worked out prior to posting an event of such scale.

In honesty i completely agree with you if any of you knew the timeline that this came together you'd all be saying it's not possible.
The fact is it possible despite the skepticism on here, there are many in support. it will happen and if you've chosen not to be a part of it, unlucky for you. This will be a kick ass op!!

Aquamarine August 16th, 2013 04:31

Our skepticism comes from experience. New guys, land owners and ranchers who think that because they own HD-DVD copies of Boondock Saints, that suddenly they are Mr. Milsim. You come here not offering a whole lot to chew on, so we are in our right minds to be skeptical. I'm sure the 18 people confirmed going will have a good time. At least that's what your Facebook page says the roster will be, and hey, that's great!

So hey, feel free to tell me how I've never played a milsim, I don't know what it's like to cook without an open flame and TRY to show how you're a more 'tactical' guy than me... You can even try to tell us how your game is going to be ten times better than the WestCan series ever was. I'll wait for the after action report and see what the real players, those on the ground have to say about the organization, field layout and cost/value is. By the way, which company have you hired to do your Pyro?

J-Man19 August 16th, 2013 12:19

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Originally Posted by Aquamarine (Post 1825351)
Our skepticism comes from experience. New guys, land owners and ranchers who think that because they own HD-DVD copies of Boondock Saints, that suddenly they are Mr. Milsim. You come here not offering a whole lot to chew on, so we are in our right minds to be skeptical. I'm sure the 18 people confirmed going will have a good time. At least that's what your Facebook page says the roster will be, and hey, that's great!

So hey, feel free to tell me how I've never played a milsim, I don't know what it's like to cook without an open flame and TRY to show how you're a more 'tactical' guy than me... You can even try to tell us how your game is going to be ten times better than the WestCan series ever was. I'll wait for the after action report and see what the real players, those on the ground have to say about the organization, field layout and cost/value is. By the way, which company have you hired to do your Pyro?

Hurry up and move to calgary

Love Jman

Wrath144 August 19th, 2013 15:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aquamarine (Post 1825351)
So hey, feel free to tell me how I've never played a milsim, I don't know what it's like to cook without an open flame and TRY to show how you're a more 'tactical' guy than me... You can even try to tell us how your game is going to be ten times better than the WestCan series ever was. I'll wait for the after action report and see what the real players, those on the ground have to say about the organization, field layout and cost/value is. By the way, which company have you hired to do your Pyro?

I understand your skepticism but putting words in his mouth like this is not cool or fair. Instead why don't you ACTUALLY just wait for the AAR?

Aquamarine August 19th, 2013 23:58

Sorry, I guess I mis-interpreted it when he challenged me and others with this:

Quote:

ever had to cook without a raging fire and not give away your position? ever run a "hard routine" ?
It made him sound in context that we who are offering skeptical opinions have never played milsim before.

Zulu 1 August 21st, 2013 03:17

Ok just a smidge of an idea of what you get for your $195...

08.00 Friday morning will be broken into groups for training, this will be conducted by former and current Royal Marine Commando instructors this will include but not limited to

INSTRUCTORS
All instruction will be carried out by Tier 1’s ex-Royal Marine Commando instructors, some assistance will be provided by certain non-ex military staff nominated by Tier-1 instructors.
TRAINING
The subjects to be covered will be:
1. Aims and types of Patrols.
2. Patrol harbour drills including lying up positions.
3. Observation Posts (Selection, construction and routine).
4. Target reconnaissance and Close Target Reconnaissance.
5. Patrol anti-ambush and contact drills.
6. The Platoon attack on a fixed position.
7. Platoon ambush drills (day and night).
The above subjects will be covered in a logical and progressive sequence with one subject preparing and leading on to the next. All lessons will consist of an amount of static instruction on tactics, techniques and procedures (TTP’s) followed by practical participation by the players in the form of “walk through-talk through” and practical exercises.
Normal cost if conducted separately $75 CAD for 12hr course

Then there will be forced rest period and group get together

Op will start Saturday am ...more information will follow once registered

follow the link there is more info being updated all the time on the website.

http://www.zulu1militarysimulation.c...-registration/

Aquamarine August 21st, 2013 09:24

Zulu 1: I made a mistake, I thought this was an airsoft event, sorry, I retract my previous statements in thinking this was a MilSim. My bad, I admit my fault.

Zulu 1 August 21st, 2013 10:10

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aquamarine (Post 1827021)
Zulu 1: I made a mistake, I thought this was an airsoft event, sorry, I retract my previous statements in thinking this was a MilSim. My bad, I admit my fault.

Aquamarine please tell me how this is NOT milsim? Can you also explain Chris how you're a "maybe" on my facebook page yet full of sarcasm here?
After the training on Friday, Saturdays op is a milsim! Putting into practice all that has been learnt the previous day.

Any reason this gets thrown into off topic now?? Mod's not want anyone to read this?
Perhaps the game section would be better?

My aim is to bring something new to the community it's not for all i agree, everyone talks of the great games they see in Europe well here it is! Zulu 1 and Tier 1 are combining to bring this event to Canada let the public decide whether this is what they want rather than deciding it for them where are we Russia?

Azathoth August 21st, 2013 10:46

So if I understand this correctly...

Friday '12 hour training day'
Saturday Sim???

Because at first I thought you were charging 195 for a training day.

Aquamarine August 21st, 2013 10:50

I'm tickled pink you can use my real name now, how clever to show you know more about anything. Good for you. What else can you do?

As I had said, I made a mistake and I admitted it. To my eyes, it appeared that your little event was exclusively training, so as I said, that is my mistake. It's only the first DAY that the training is there. Is that required training? Something that we can skip out on to reduce the cost?

Still wondering who's doing the pyro for you though. Would be good to know the money, all $200 of it, we are (potentially) spending isn't just going into pockets but into something worth-while. Of course, I, like most other Canadian players, are used to spending $60-100 for large, broad milsim games. I'm probably wrong again, and am underestimating what you are bringing to the table though. So I moved this thread for you back to General but perhaps the 'game' section is a much better home for it.

1) Is the training optional to reduce our price?
2) Which company is doing pyro and are they licensed?
3) What do players get out of spending $200+?
4) Are tents being provided?
5) Is food being provided to be cooked without a //"raging fire"//?

Plus, since you decided to 'call me out' and use my real name, yes I will be in BC at the time of the event and pending on whether I want to take part in your game or not. It will depend on the number of other veteran airsofters that I am familiar with. If they go, then it would be a nice experience. If not, well... I simply don't want to spend $200 to go camping with only 19 others who are confirmed (well, so says your facebook group anyhow).

Regards and rainbows :)


(edit: just throwing this in for archival sake)
Quote:

Originally Posted by Zulu 1 (Post 1827037)
Aquamarine please tell me how this is NOT milsim? Can you also explain Chris how you're a "maybe" on my facebook page yet full of sarcasm here?
After the training on Friday, Saturdays op is a milsim! Putting into practice all that has been learnt the previous day.

Any reason this gets thrown into off topic now?? Mod's not want anyone to read this?
Perhaps the game section would be better?

My aim is to bring something new to the community it's not for all i agree, everyone talks of the great games they see in Europe well here it is! Zulu 1 and Tier 1 are combining to bring this event to Canada let the public decide whether this is what they want rather than deciding it for them where are we Russia?


Danke August 21st, 2013 10:58

Zulu; Aqua and the other player's concern is this. And is is a valid one.

You are a person who's new on the scene and that no one has really heard of.

You're here now touting an event that's new, more expensive than other established events (a lot more expensive) at an unknown location supported by a group not known to the community.

Many people have come before you making the same elaborate claims, a huge event or other promise who have promptly shit the bed and become persona non grata.

What I'd suggest is first meeting with the local player base to get yourself out there. Then getting age verified so you can chat in the adult section of the site and last putting on a few taster events at the location to create a buzz and sense of legitimacy around it

As I was typing it looks like Aqua has said the same, a bit more plainly.

Conker August 21st, 2013 13:03

What Danke said.

I'm way too far east for this to attend anyway, but for me, paying that much for an event organised by people I don't know, and for which no one I know and trust can vouch... Dunno. I'm not ready to jump on it with so much unknown.

If I were you, I would have organized something more modest, like a 12-hour OP to get your name out there, to show people that you have the organisational skills, experience and mindset to do it. Put shortly, to build a relationship with the community. I can totally understand everyone's concerns here.

With that said, I still kinda like what I read on the site and I'll be following what happens. Who knows, if the experience is positive maybe there could be such event closer to home.

Zulu 1 August 22nd, 2013 01:37

Gentlemen i'm going to address you all but no-one in particular, I'm not here to call people out piss anyone off or segregate one party from another.I am going to set out my stall once and for all if you do not like what you hear or feel it's not for you i respect that. Please respect what i am offering as a product and the fellow like minded players that also appreciate what i have presented.

Zulu 1 Military Simulation is a bona fide stand up registered business it is fully insured and requires a modest profit margin to operate and bring you the player further training and game opportunities. Do not request the profit percentage you would not do that at sears or walmart do not ask me! What i can tell you is that very penny of profit is being pumped back into the business to grow and better each operation.

The aim is as my website suggests www.zulu1militarysimulation.com to offer you the player/operator a 100% as real as it gets combat simulation, from mandatory training that sets the bar as to how we insist you will conduct yourselves as modern day soldiers, thru to briefings, sandtable construction, to CTR's recce,TTP's etc this will be conducted by established event organiser from the UK Tier 1.
ED the owner a former Royal Marine himself will be attending, bringing with him current serving Royal Marine instructors, what you will learn will be a major growth to your individual skill set and improve the game for you. This partnership will continue beyond silvertip allowing cross trade gaming each side of the pond.


These same instructors are key to the success of the saturday silvertip operation. I have also assembled a cadre of former military personnel to continue this high level of training moving forward.

Why have we included mandatory training?
This is because we expect everyone to conduct themselves in a roleplay soldierly fashion. You will be expected to bring your own kit see kit list on my website!!

I will have equipment for sale, basha's, bivi bag's, sleeping bags, and various other items such as bergens all of these items are on there way from European suppliers to offer cost effective equipment to the serious player. These items are truely cheaper than in canada items in most cases.I see this as paramount commitment to the player to ensure the growth of the player base for these style of games and Zulu1.

The "game" operation from startex to endex will have no breaks, no retrieving stuff from vehicles no smoke breaks or lunch breaks this all will be taken in field and yes you could get attacked. If you need equipment form the 24hr portion carry it!! in a bergen and expect to TAB several KM's and build all round defences and stag on at night.

You will be expected to operate as a team, you may not be with your regular team mates.

This event is meant as a challenge to you the player it will be tough, tiring, but ultimately satisfying when completed successfully. It certainly is a challenge to me putting this together.

The price is set for Zulu 1 to offer the real as it gets experience, flights cost from the UK, equipment and other trades cost.
I personally have sunk several thousands of dollars into the whole that is Zulu 1 to make it what it is and will be in the future. I am not planning on having 400 people attending 120 places are all that are catered for.
I'm asking the serious committed amongst you, come out and try it, in six months from now the $200 would have gone anyway on groceries or whatever but there still would be people talking about Op silvertip,AND when and where is the next one.

Why have we not started one 12 hr game at a time with 50 people? cost - this is a partnership with Tier 1 it would not be viable.
Who are they?
check them out yourselves it's readily available info on the net.they are bringing 7/8 players 4000 miles even with the cost of the flights to attend this game, these are not rich guys either but committed players. Committed to what Tier 1 Zulu 1 offer.

I fully understand that we have appeared from nowhere, asking for money

This needs 90 players, are you one?If we don't meet targets full refunds will be given!! All payments are collected via paypal you all have recourse

This will be the last time i post fully on here, i'm currently working 18/19hr days missing the time from my kids trying to get things together.

I will be attending, Op Iceback so if anyone is there or lives local come down talk to me, perhaps you will see then the passion i have for this venture and the vision i have for the future, if you don't like what you see or hear don't come. You will then have lost nothing!

I can assure you the background has been around for 2 years or more only recently being charged to what you see today

I am forcing no-one just looking for folks to join me on the ride.

Look forward to seeing some of you at the OP



P.s no i have not catalogued everything you will get, this is not a disney experience, leave something to open on the day!

ok flame on!!

pusangani August 22nd, 2013 02:05

Zulu, you went about this all wrong, you should have first introduced yourself to ASC members in your neck of the woods in person, shown them what you are about and gotten them to back you

Off_kilter August 22nd, 2013 02:08

Theres more info coming out of him then ever came out about the Iceback game. Thats a big plus in my books.

Drake August 22nd, 2013 07:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by pusangani (Post 1827283)
Zulu, you went about this all wrong, you should have first introduced yourself to ASC members in your neck of the woods in person, shown them what you are about and gotten them to back you

Well it's too late for that now, isn't it. Work with what he's offering.

They'll be attending another event, so just wait and see what people have to say.

Quote:

I will be attending, Op Iceback so if anyone is there or lives local come down talk to me, perhaps you will see then the passion i have for this venture and the vision i have for the future, if you don't like what you see or hear don't come. You will then have lost nothing!
Exactly that.



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Originally Posted by Zulu 1 (Post 1827281)
You will be expected to operate as a team, you may not be with your regular team mates.

Not sure if that's just poorly worded, but that's a potential deal breaker for me. If I travel and pay that amount for an event, I expect to be with my team. I understand my might be grouped up with other people/teams, or that very large teams may have to be broken into two groups, but IMO every effort should be made to keep people from teams together.

This is probably doubly true for the really milsim-minded teams.





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I fully understand that we have appeared from nowhere, asking for money

[...]

I am forcing no-one just looking for folks to join me on the ride.

[...]

P.s no i have not catalogued everything you will get, this is not a disney experience, leave something to open on the day!

Conversely, I think you also have to keep in mind this community has seen its share of shysters, big ideas that never materialize, "big events" that failed to deliver, etc. So while it may not be the case for you, people here are weary of strangers especially for stuff like this.

Likewise its not unreasonable for people to want to know what they're paying for, as a consumer I'm certain you understand this.



Quote:

This will be the last time i post fully on here, i'm currently working 18/19hr days missing the time from my kids trying to get things together.
While I understand you may not want to have to reply to every comment being made, you should nonetheless keep an open line of communication with the community if you have any hope of having people from here attend your events.

Additionally, you should probably make and maintain a proper event announcement thread in the Games & Events section instead of having it buried in this one.

Kokanee August 22nd, 2013 08:17

I know we are all a little jaded as Canadian airsofters from the constant litany of fly-by-night "revolutionary" plans that get paraded out every year, but the reaction to this thread has been absolutely outright hostile. No wonder the sport isn't evolving and is stagnating.

Zulu 1 August 22nd, 2013 11:15

Drake; While I understand you may not want to have to reply to every comment being made, you should nonetheless keep an open line of communication with the community if you have any hope of having people from here attend your events.

Additionally, you should probably make and maintain a proper event announcement thread in the Games & Events section instead of having it buried in this one.[/QUOTE]


Lines are open to all INTERESTED parties i have a website www.zulu1militarysimulation.com and an Facebook event https://www.facebook.com/events/164794520377902/ set up for this and I will happy discuss this in person or via the phone with genuinely interested players, i have already!

I WILL not be drawn into more negative discussion - i understand the resistance and concern speak to me personally. If you are then not satisfied don't come to the event i'm not twisting arms here.

All further event info will be given out on the above media i urge all to follow us there.

Thanks asc

Drake August 22nd, 2013 11:19

Ok Good luck

GBBR September 12th, 2013 00:46

So... since it's now cancelled... or "post-poned" until next year... do we get a refund if we pre-paid..?
is this even going to happen?

Zulu 1 September 12th, 2013 01:13

GBBR it's NOT cancelled!! -

sure any open minded player that had the foresight to prepay certainly gets a refund.
in fact i'll offer a free spot in May on top of the refund.

Question for all

Would you fly 4500miles without knowing if there was a game to attend?

no ?

So why would the Tier1 and Royal Marine DS, like any major event prepaid attendance is a must for planning and organisation.

Payment by Paypal invoice with all the protection Paypal offers

QRF1 September 15th, 2013 10:33

Mr. Zulu, Don't take this the wrong way. I am just trying to help you out here. Some of the skepticism on here could be attributed to the fact that you never use your name, your website does not indicate where you are based (no physical address, city, even province) and there is no phone number, etc. Mystery and intrigue will only get you so far in this community. I truly do hope you succeed but antagonizing your customer base is not a great start. I recently attended OPSF put on by MGP and they had some issues but it was great experience for me. Going in, the organizer's Bios were all published on the website which made me more comfortable about who was putting it on and their experience. Transparency may serve you well. Cheers.

Mordarski J.A. September 16th, 2013 05:10

Quote:

Originally Posted by QRF1 (Post 1833604)
...your website does not indicate where you are based (no physical address, city, even province)...

Quote:

Originally Posted by iceman3994 (Post 1819548)
...I came across a company in Alberta...

Most of his/their updates and posts on Facebook list "near Red Deer, Alberta".

According to their "About Us" page on their website:

ZULU 1 MILITARY SIMULATION is a military simulation and training company. ZULU 1 was founded by passionate and experienced milsim players and a training cadre of military veterans. Based in Alberta Canada with travel links to the beautiful mountain habitat of the “Rockies”. Conducting future operations both here and around the globe.

Source: Link

QRF1 September 19th, 2013 19:06

I have been corrected on that. Thanks.

JadedKommando September 23rd, 2013 11:59

It's hard enough trying to grow any type of community in a country as large as Canada. But for so many people to be so hostile and arguementative againest a small business owner trying to promote a great idea in such an awsome sport..well it's says a lot about some peoples character or lack there of.

Aquamarine September 23rd, 2013 23:59

I guess you haven't been around long enough to remember any of the scams, eh?

Danke September 24th, 2013 00:07

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aquamarine (Post 1835745)
I guess you haven't been around long enough to remember any of the scams, eh?

Hey, cut him some slack. He's trying to find the very well hidden review section on here.

JadedKommando September 24th, 2013 10:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danke (Post 1835747)
Hey, cut him some slack. He's trying to find the very well hidden review section on here.

Dam, I'm now "that guy" lol

Danke December 31st, 2013 19:59

So anything further on Zulu 1/Tier 1?

They are back up listing an event in May in Golden B.C.

Since this thread started has anyone met them, seen them at a game, attended an event they organized?

Aquamarine January 20th, 2014 17:56

I'm interested in whether there's any new information. Some guys asked me about it this past weekend and I just told them what I knew.

Danke January 20th, 2014 20:20

Did you get your mattress upstairs?

Kokanee January 20th, 2014 21:04

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danke (Post 1857369)
So anything further on Zulu 1/Tier 1?

They are back up listing an event in May in Golden B.C.

Since this thread started has anyone met them, seen them at a game, attended an event they organized?

The organizer is a really switched on fellow who has recently emigrated from the UK and is trying to bring european style gaming to Canada. Unfortunately the community had a bad case of "ugh! change is bad, CHANGE IS BAD!" and things went down hill from there.

I've personally had this fellow over for a cuppa and chatted at length about what he is trying to pull off and the long term goals; he is legit.

Danke January 20th, 2014 23:13

That's a positive uptick!

Conker January 20th, 2014 23:20

I don't think people were "huh change is bad". More like "this is too good to be true" which, especially coming from someone unknown, generally means either being disappointed or scammed.

But I'm really glad to read this Kokanee. I'll be keeping an eye on this.

Wrath144 January 21st, 2014 00:31

Still in.

iceman3994 January 21st, 2014 09:02

I have also met with the organizer and this is legit. We have talked at great length and the community should give this a try. You will be very happy you did.

Mordarski J.A. January 24th, 2014 06:27

I'm interested in attending, but much like everything else it will depend on my work schedule and where the finances sit. Definitely looks/sounds like a blast, and after hearing some friends may migrate themselves north for the event....well, all the more reason to be there!

Unsung Hero January 24th, 2014 08:14

Do we have a head count at all as to who has committed to attending? Is the cut off for payment still January 31st?

J-Man19 January 30th, 2014 01:51

I'll wait for the AAR and decide if I make it to the next game.

dperr February 22nd, 2014 22:16

Golden in may, no thanks. Crappy weather cold mountain nights and mosquitos pass.

skydiver March 27th, 2014 21:26

Who are the pathfinders amongst you?

i hear alot about who isn't going and will wait....

http://www.airsoftcanada.com/showthread.php?t=163318

Kimbo March 27th, 2014 21:45

A few of us from our team are going to check it out. Looks like it'll be interesting.

Kimbo May 18th, 2014 23:27

This game was really great. The Tier 1 /Zulu guys are a really switched on group who brought their real world trainng and experience to put together a very good Milsim.

Were going to post up an AAR in the next day or so. So tired.

TIER1 May 22nd, 2014 15:28

Nice one Kimbo,

We are glad for the good and positive feedback.

Our style of MILSIM will not be everyone's thing, but if you want to experience a realistic challenging military experience, then TIER 1 and ZULU 1 are the only organisation that do this level of MILSIM events.

Regards.

Ed (TIER 1 - UK)

www.tier1militarysimulatiom.com / www.zulu1militarysimulation.com

Torn Soul May 24th, 2014 11:34

I think the Chairsofters need to get out to one of Zulu 1/TIER 1's events to understand where the sport really got it's roots.

Now I don't expect everyone to understand and enjoy this type of event. This isn't Battlefield 4 or Call of Duty. This is soldiering, and whatever that requires. I've had some people complain about the seriousness of it, and I get that sometimes you just want to sling plastic and do non-stop skirmish. But if you want a true operation feel, these guys are the ones to see. TIER 1 is top notch in UK for this type of event which is very popular over there, and Zulu 1 is their sister company in Canada.

Very fun event, very good feel. The leadership was great. I'll be going back as many times as I can afford to.

If you're a fair weather player, or just a chairsofter who's got it all figured out, well you probably don't do many events anyways so clear the comms.


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