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Cobrajr122 December 12th, 2010 21:51

Polar Star HPA Drop in V2 Kit
 
So I did a search for this and I was surprised that nothing had been posted yet.

I found this a few days ago and instantly fell in love. I WANT ONE.

http://arniesairsoft.co.uk/news2/wp-...1/image103.png
http://www.popularairsoft.com/files/...ar_HPA_02a.jpg

Even though this is an HPA/CO2 run kit, it will still need your a battery to run the electronics on it. From what I have read, they spec it to work around 7-9 volts. So you can run a small Ni-meh/Ni-Cad battery, or a LiPo no problems, and it will probably last many many many many games.

I think this would be PERFECT for anything from CQB rifles to MGs. I know running tanks and lines is not everyone's cup of tea, its not mine either, but I think I would try it out for this product.

While looking for pics to post I found an article about it on arnies > http://arniesairsoft.co.uk/news2/21616

They have some impressive videos on their youtube channel > http://www.youtube.com/user/PolarStarAirsoft

December 2010 Pre-orders were mentioned, but I'm not sure its going to happen, either way its coming soon, and I plan on getting one. (hopefully it wont cost 1/2 my pay check :s)
I know I got Amos interested too :D

coach December 12th, 2010 22:19

I'd love it if they ran the micro line through the stock so that you could run a small tank in the full stock. Or, put a QD fitting on the side of the stock so that you can run your air rig line and sling from the same point.

Cobrajr122 December 12th, 2010 22:27

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Originally Posted by coachster (Post 1368411)
I'd love it if they ran the micro line through the stock so that you could run a small tank in the full stock. Or, put a QD fitting on the side of the stock so that you can run your air rig line and sling from the same point.

Someone had mentioned running a tank in the stock on another forum, But the general response was that it would be extremely impractical and you would get a very low amount of rounds fired.
You could run the line wherever you want to i suppose, just have to get the original line out of the box to feed into the stock : /

Cheesevillage December 12th, 2010 22:36

This product seems pointless for anything but MGs.

No blowback -- wouldn't a GBBR be a much better investment?

You're not gonna try and convince me the nice trigger response is worth the price of the 'box plus the hassle of a line and tank plus the cost of CO2 or HPA, are you?

Just throw a lipo in your AEG. This mechbox doesn't even sound aggressive!


EDIT: although it might be good for winter!

Jackals December 12th, 2010 22:38

Wow, I am looking forward to seeing how much these are going to cost.

aZn_triXta07 December 12th, 2010 22:43

This is not new actually ... this is just a new and improved design .. some of you have probably dealt with the guy before ... he went dark a few months ago my guess he wanted to keep everything secret :P

There's only one potential problem, don't know if they looked into it but this is essentially a crank the pressure up as high as you want mechbox ..so it can be potentially hazardous.

However I think it's taken TOO long for them to start selling this with the GBBR market booming and the fact that majority of airsofters do not have an interest in Classic Airsoft.

krap101 December 12th, 2010 22:57

Apparently it will cost ~$400 according people who met Ben at Irene. Also, it appears that it's been delayed a bit.

YouTube - PolarStar AEG to HPA Conversion Demo #2

Tell me that isn't epic

Specs December 12th, 2010 23:53

That doesn't sound too bad...what velocity is that?! its crazy

Pinard December 13th, 2010 08:00

external air supply ???? don't like... I came to airsoft because I didn't want paintball ! thats almost a paintball without that dirty paint...

Penguin December 13th, 2010 09:46

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Originally Posted by Contractor 6-8 (Post 1368587)
external air supply ???? don't like... I came to airsoft because I didn't want paintball ! thats almost a paintball without that dirty paint...

The external air isn't really what bothers me about paintball, it's the nonsensical rainbow anodized laser guns. Though I don't agree with having the external line, it is an interesting option for people. Interestingly enough though - the people I've seen using these in the "Action" videos all hipfire and seem like they're playing speedball. Maybe that is what external air does to you, further scientific testing is needed.

Pinard December 13th, 2010 12:57

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Originally Posted by Penguin (Post 1368618)
The external air isn't really what bothers me about paintball, it's the nonsensical rainbow anodized laser guns. Though I don't agree with having the external line, it is an interesting option for people. Interestingly enough though - the people I've seen using these in the "Action" videos all hipfire and seem like they're playing speedball. Maybe that is what external air does to you, further scientific testing is needed.

yeah sure the pink anodized gun is THE first think that turn me off...but the external air supply turns me off too...I like the realism in the game...their is no swirled line coming out of a real gun ! (I know they don't sound like a RC car neither but eh ! )

Guerrilla December 13th, 2010 14:01

I've been practically dying waiting for this to come out. I personally don't mind a tank at all. the weight difference it makes in my rig is nothing, and would allow for adjustable fps at the turn of a nob on the regulator on your tank.

No longer will you be restricted from using a gun on a certain field just because of fps rules. Also if you zip tie or something the line along your sling you'll never even know its there

Gunny_McSmith December 13th, 2010 15:34

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Originally Posted by Cheesevillage (Post 1368426)
This product seems pointless for anything but MGs.

+1, i would build a MG with that... :P

DBN_tyrant August 30th, 2012 20:30

you can swap out the air nozzle to change the fps of the gun. they make them in ranges to 50fps starting at 350 and going to about 600 fps as well as you are able to regulate pressure to adjust fps slightly. supposedly thees things are indestructible also i will be picking one up in the next couple of months,

CR0M August 31st, 2012 08:28

I watched the videos very intrigued... but then I saw the airline and external tank... then saw what someone said these things will sell for... seems like alot of hassle compared to just getting a gbb

if you want adjustable fps just get a quick change spring gearbox...

SuperHog August 31st, 2012 09:42

As long as that hose requires you to attach a paintball tank to it most airsofters won't touch it for lack of realism. I am sure PS is going to come out with a 1911 pistol that also needs a hose to operate it.

When I pick up a M4, I want to hold it and shoot it, not attach a coil hose to it.

Why couldn't PS just put HPA in a modified GBBR magazine to eliminate the tank?

m102404 August 31st, 2012 09:57

I'm not a fan of things with extra hoses/wires/etc...but on that same note tons of guys have comm lines/lanyards/hydration lines/packs/belts/etc...all over them anyways.

I've got two in the workshop right now...they're very impressive re. build quality and design. The setup/electronics are very simple and it works.

There's noise and all that...no real action to speak of. Sort of like a PTW (switch trigger, instant shot, etc...). Very consistent FPS delivery. And it's fun on a SAW like setup. In fact...that's where I'd see it having the most appeal. To lay in with a lot of rounds without having to worry about mechboxes/batteries...that's cool.

I'd run one on a SAW in a heartbeat...I wouldn't use it for an M4.

SuperHog August 31st, 2012 10:17

I think the PS is going to have to evolve before airsofters would consider it.

The $400 drop in unit does not include the extra cost for the coil hose and HPA tank and a scuba tank which you need to lug around. Only paintball fields have CO2 and HPA fills on site.

On my AEG, just have an extra battery in my admin pouch that is my back up all day. For GBBR owners, packing gas cans is easy.

wildcard August 31st, 2012 10:21

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Originally Posted by SuperHog (Post 1698125)
As long as that hose requires you to attach a paintball tank to it most airsofters won't touch it for lack of realism. I am sure PS is going to come out with a 1911 pistol that also needs a hose to operate it.

When I pick up a M4, I want to hold it and shoot it, not attach a coil hose to it.

Why couldn't PS just put HPA in a modified GBBR magazine to eliminate the tank?

If you have the coin there is this custom shop that have GBBR that is powered by the shell/magazine eject system just like the real thing unfortunately their custom rifle starts at $5500 + Mags + Shells

The PS system is byfar teh most efficient and problem free when it comes to operation unlike teh Daytona gun gas there is very little parts/seals that can breakdown, they have CNC parts ready unlike the other GBBR utilizing pot metal, they use HPA instead of Propane and NO cool down effect, the only downside is the coils but I'm ok with it, it's like going back in time playing with my JAC. The fun part about the PS system is on a AEG set up you can run your regular mags instead of the expensive yet fragile GBBR mags. I've put a PS on a stoner SMG eventhough the boxmag was having a hard time keeping up with the gun the solid stream of bbs with the range and accuracy to boot is a dream every airsofter have, I'm almost tempted to say that the amount of white death being put downrange can easily put a PTW to shame.

wildcard August 31st, 2012 10:27

Quote:

Originally Posted by SuperHog (Post 1698144)
I think the PS is going to have to evolve before airsofters would consider it.

The $400 drop in unit does not include the extra cost for the coil hose and HPA tank and a scuba tank which you need to lug around. Only paintball fields have CO2 and HPA fills on site.

On my AEG, just have an extra battery in my admin pouch that is my back up all day. For GBBR owners, packing gas cans is easy.

60oz tank can easily shoot over 3000 shots, on the stoner box mag (1500) I went through almost 4 mags worth before the HPA level drop too low to propel the bbs past 25ft
the tight seal and the efficiency of the system will allow it to only use a very small amount of air to propel the bbs

Grudge August 31st, 2012 10:49

Everywhere I have seen these discussed it has always been in a sniper rifle setup. Guys like the consistent power they offer, as well as the smooth trigger responce. And they don't seem to care about the line and external tank.

I think it has more to do with the extremely high FPS you can get out of them.
One guy was talking about getting 425fps with .6 BB's, and hitting guys at 400+ feet.

wildcard August 31st, 2012 11:06

Quote:

Originally Posted by multitech (Post 1698154)
Everywhere I have seen these discussed it has always been in a sniper rifle setup. Guys like the consistent power they offer, as well as the smooth trigger responce. And they don't seem to care about the line and external tank.

I think it has more to do with the extremely high FPS you can get out of them.
One guy was talking about getting 425fps with .6 BB's, and hitting guys at 400+ feet.

Well I have one being worked on a Socom Gear M82A1, the first time I got this I jerry rigged a innerbarrel to the High output nozzle and fired it in my backyard at one of those heavy claypot planters you buy at Rona (at least 1.75"thick) the distance was over a 35ft pool plus some green space so approximately 70ft with the experimental bastard .66 silicas, the result was quite shocking apparently the first shock cracked the pot but I didn't notice it (no scope) the second one a huge chunk of the claypot broke off. I chrony the jerry rigged contraption it was shooting at an insane speed of 458fps with the highpower nozzle this could have been that teh barrel was pushed right into the nozzle with very little or no movement (so no air seal loss), I was actually glad that I bought three other nozzle as this one would have been absolute no no on the field. The other three were a lot milder ranging from 369fps/.25 to 420fps w/.25

I'm actually looking forward to their V3/LMG release which was delayed, I want a few for my piggies and the M240B

Cobrajr122 August 31st, 2012 11:41

I got my drop in kit in the mail today, and I'll have the M240 kit in the mail next week.
Can't wait to test this puppy out.

Quote:

Originally Posted by wildcard (Post 1698160)

I'm actually looking forward to their V3/LMG release which was delayed, I want a few for my piggies and the M240B

My source has an M240 FE in stock ;)

wildcard August 31st, 2012 13:54

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cobrajr122 (Post 1698173)
I got my drop in kit in the mail today, and I'll have the M240 kit in the mail next week.
Can't wait to test this puppy out.



My source has an M240 FE in stock ;)

I'm no 12 on the waiting list, Im waiting for 4 of the V3 and 2 of the M240B kit

Cobrajr122 August 31st, 2012 14:00

Shit man, converting every gun you have over to P*?

I am still waiting on the G3 parts then I'll be picking up another V2. I have been bugging P* for G3 parts for over 2 years now >_>

Amos August 31st, 2012 14:19

I want V3 AK :(

wildcard August 31st, 2012 14:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cobrajr122 (Post 1698232)
Shit man, converting every gun you have over to P*?

I am still waiting on the G3 parts then I'll be picking up another V2. I have been bugging P* for G3 parts for over 2 years now >_>

nah some are mine some belong to some friends just pooled it together to get better pricing

Cobrajr122 September 4th, 2012 20:52

Its alive!!

I need to get the tank changed tomorrow then I'll probably end up draining it plinking in my yard.

http://imageshack.us/a/img708/1995/imgp8404.jpg

wildcard September 6th, 2012 00:16

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cobrajr122 (Post 1699532)
Its alive!!

I need to get the tank changed tomorrow then I'll probably end up draining it plinking in my yard.

http://imageshack.us/a/img708/1995/imgp8404.jpg

for asthetics reason you can hide your hose through your slings or via hydration hose to your pack, looks great man.

Cobrajr122 September 6th, 2012 18:17

I am not to worried about the air line :P
Thanks though!

I am more worried about the FCU/LiPo flopping about in that massive stock, makes a lot of noise and the FCU cable is not quite long enough to get it out of the stock for access to the battery connectors.
Time to buy a replacement stock :P

Looks like I'll have to do the Heat shrink mod on the selector plate as well, I can only get semi out of it. Oh well, I knew that might be an issue going into it.

She shoots GREAT though, I can't wait to get the hopup, rubber, and barrel switched out to a full Promi setup.

Edit:

Fixed auto, results....

http://imageshack.us/a/img801/7929/20120908225017.jpg


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