CSOR
 

There's a JTF2 thread, but looks like there's no CSOR thread... so here we go.

There's many pictures in training on CF Combat Camera, but actual photos in operations? Now that's something else; they're pretty rare.

Hires: http://img17.imageshack.us/img17/4366/344772.jpg

Found that pic on Wednesday's daily thread on MP.net and the camo looked like CADPAT, so it raised my suspicion... looking for more info of it on Google I found more pics.

http://i117.photobucket.com/albums/o...fe/CSOR212.jpg
http://i117.photobucket.com/albums/o...fe/CSOR132.jpg
http://i117.photobucket.com/albums/o...tWarriors2.jpg
This is a painting, but as this was comissionned by a CF LtCol, this was most likely based on a photo.

Found there: http://shadowspear.com/vb/threads/ca...pilation.5682/ (there's a few more that were posted in the JTF2 thread already)

painting is of the fibua site in petawawa in case anyone is wondering, yeah i'm lame like that.

Question!
 

C,

Look at the stocks on the 5 guys pict crane stokes and multiple peq's... arent does airsoft guns...

Couldnt they be airsoft week-end warriors?

Cheers,

Pete

Could be, if airsofters had access to a fast rope + Griffon chopper in petawawa.

What, you dont? :D

Ok.... look at foot wear, holster, vests, side arm color
 

Shoot I was in better matched halloween parties.... one of these guys is wearing sneakers... I say we do a collect to equip CSOR

As for the griffon... sorry can't locate it in the pick, maybe in another one in the series.

My point was that I didnt know CSOR was training with airsoft... closest ive seen so far is FED platoon in St-Jean using paintball launchers as noise makers because of law (no guns in civies hands.

Cheers

Pete

Ps Give me 25 feet of fast rope and I'll rig you something to take pictures..lol

They're not training with airsoft.. what tells you they are?

They don't care about color matching, they care about using what works. And these are officially released pics taken in Petawawa.

hey conker...
 

Back to question one... do they use crane stocks in CF?

Sneakers Helo jumping.... was not aware of that ((you GOT to admit it not the greatest idee))... still don't see griffon

Cheers

pete

they're probably using simunitions or just blanks.

Back to question one... do they use crane stocks in CF?

Cheers,

Pete

Shadow of the Griffon can be seen in picture #2.

Just look at the operator finishing his fast rope descent.

Crane stocks were not "designed" for airsoft.
So yes, they are used, locally and in the sand box.
Operators choice.

Also really no reason for an airsofter to wear a repel/retention line harness ( not really sure what its called) check the operator in the middle not wearing a bucket

ok, i thought the shadow was a bit small for a helo but OK... It's a griffon

Has any one on the site ever seen a crane stock being used by CF yes or NO
honest question...

Still back with sneaker vehicule jumping ((broken ankle anyone )) 3 types of night vision braces... need I go on.... as I said lets do a collect to equip CSOR

Cheers

Pete

I have seen guys use these stocks overseas myself, so yes CF people use these stocks. And yes the shadow of a helo will appear small when its flying at a certain altitude

PVS-14 kits are issued with multiple mounting solutions, depending on the helmet, again operators choice.

I don't see any sneakers. I see a mix of tan/black 5.11 issued boots in 6" and 8" cuts.

wish I could find bigger pics
http://www.csor-rosc.forces.gc.ca/im...-roscri-05.jpg
http://www.csor-rosc.forces.gc.ca/im...-roscri-03.jpg

No they are not wearing sneakers, they are wearing boots. C3sk, what makes you assume they are 5.11 boots? Lots of other boots on the market.

They could be other, just my guess based on the middle operator in the fast rope descent.. And from my knowledge of what has been made available to individuals in the past.

Looks like the 5.11 to me, but could very well be oakley's <shrug>

Thanks for the answer SC, cheers mate
 

and skeletor...

Didnt know they could paint theyre issued equipment (weapons and components)... learned interesting things today alway nice to get answers from people who know and have seen rather then those extrapolating ((as I was doing :D

Cheers

Pete

Gonna say the boots are probably Oakley, considering that is what they are issued in CSOR.

Hum... Spectre sights and AN/PEQ 15's. Looks like CSOR did not have their budget reduced this fiscal year like almost everybody else in the CF.

At RMC...
 

OCdts and NCdts, go to the SOF symposium at Currie if you can on Tues-Wed.
I'll be there with along with some other cool folk, and lots of tan berets.

http://www.rmc.ca/aca/dcs-dep/sofnc-foscn-eng.asp

Well, talked to a CSOR guy at a parade here at the college and thats what he told me.

Would love too, my budget may not allow, plus I have two exams tomorrow T_T

since you actually seem to now....
 

These guys are not totting standard c8 a3 are they... wrong stock, wrong fore stock wrong side rail?

Just got bitten by Sir Gues A lot...so could you please validate...

BTW thanks for all the pleasant answers man

Pete

Yes, they do not get the run of the mill plain jane C8s like the rest of the CF gets. There C8s come with RAS, some have Vltor stocks, the rest have the standard one, EoTech 553, Elcan Spectre DR, Peq15s, etc

Duty call (dinner)
 

Skeletor thanks for your time and answers man, unfortunatly this is were I have to off the bus...

To the pleasure of eventually meeting you,

Cheers,

Pete

I always wondered what the view would look like from the top of that tower.
Seen them fast rope a few times while I was in the training area. It lookslike fun :)

For the record they're using Vltor Modstocks, not crane stocks. Don't think I've seen crane stocks on CF weapons, but there are probably a few. For some reason there's a fascination with those stocks among our SF, from the photos I've seen. :p

Members of 1st Special Forces Group (Airborne) and the Canadian Special Operations Regiment conducted a combined airborne operation and wing-exchange ceremony at Roger’s drop zone on Joint Base Lewis-McChord, Wash., Dec. 2. Both events were part of the 26th annual Menton week, an event which commemorates the inactivation of the combined U.S. and Canadian First Special Service Force on Dec 5, 1944. (Photos by Sgt. Elayseah Woodard-Hinton, 20th Public Affairs Detachment)


http://img219.imageshack.us/img219/5...5w00120089.jpg
http://img576.imageshack.us/img576/6...5w00120033.jpg

Awesome - thanks for the pics -Skeletor-

Looks like CSOR is issued Arc'teryx LEAF Alpha Jackets based on the first pic.

Couple found on flickr

http://www.flickr.com/photos/world_a...n/photostream/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/world_a...n/photostream/

Those are Snipers from R22eR doing work up training in Texas not CSOR

From what Roto? Must of been a year or so back just asking because the new guys didnt go the Texas

~Infidel

It's from TF 3-07 I believe

There are holes in those parachutes...Is that due to budget cuts?!

In all seriousness though, what purpose do they serve?

Holes in the parachute are used to release trapped air allowing for a smooth controlled decent. Without them, the chute would function very violently, and have far too much drag, likely resulting in a collapse.

Awesome! Thanks for the info.

those styles of chutes, are way nicer to jump that's for sure.
yeah those sniper pics are of the vandoos snipers.
i recall originally seeing those when they were first realeased.

WOW...$750 CDN issued jackets!

probably talking about this:

Looks like CSOR is issued Arc'teryx LEAF Alpha Jackets based on the first pic.

They want to make it cost prohibitive for the airsoft fanboy to copy their style!
(o:

You can get Arc'teryx LEAF Alpha Jackets for much less than $750...

Unless I have to dump my carreer and sing away my life to them.
Let me know!

http://stores.greygrouptraining.com/...KET/Detail.bok

http://stores.greygrouptraining.com/...ENT/Detail.bok

The Berry Amendment one has the silly price.

...for those that qualify for Mil/LE pricing yes but it's still a good chunk of coin ;)

For an Alpha jacket you don't even have to buy from the LEAF catalog, that's a civi jacket also.

Just wait till spring when the outdoors stores are flipping over to summer gear. If you want the army colours you'll need to do some digging though. $350 list price for the LT right now.

No Danke, both variants are different in few things, the most visible being the color and velcro. That color (Crocodile) is exclusively in the LEAF line and can't be found in your average outdoor store... Even the corporate Arc'Teryx store in downtown Montreal can't get it.

And the LT is a completely different product.

It depends what you want to do, play army guy dress up or go for a hike with a nice jacket.

There are at least 3 cuts of Alpha jackets, and if you live somewhere warm there's no reason to buy a jacket you'd wear for a climb in the Rockies in the winter. You can get a great shell at what I'd rate as a reasonable price.

And Pugs is right about the LEAF pricing, it's a break but it's still a good chunk of cash.

I know one of the designers in Vancouver and I suggested they bring more of the LEAF features to the civi line. Like the Combat Pants for example, I'd like to have a set in another colour other than Crocodile or Black.

Exacly.

I'm an Arc'teryx whore. I wear that brand every day and I wish I could get my hands on the LEAF stuff.

But I can't really justify spending 500$ on a jacket that is militarised, when I have a civy equivalent already. I do a fair amount of hicking, but duplicated gear is a not an option. Unless it's affordable.

The Alpha Jacket was running around $320 for XL+ sizes at the Factory Outlet. The only thing from the LEAF line they had in normal sizing was the Alpha pant. I was just their yesterday and they are out of Alpha pants in Medium and Large. The Alpha Jackets were gone though so they were either sold out or put away. Several Bravo and Combat Jackets. I wish they had my size at $130 for a Combat Jacket. $49 for XXL Fusion Pants.

EDIT: After some more research it's likely to be JTF2. So see JTF2 thread here: http://www.airsoftcanada.com/showpos...&postcount=138

Just buy a tan beret and become a CSOR clerk

Pretty flippant, even for a cadet.

Don't you dare try to belittle CF clerks or any trade for that matter.

Oh I'm not at all, I completely feel that every trade is useful to the CF. I just figured gear wise it would a lot less of a hassle lol, excuse my cander, I dont want to be "that guy"

Couple new pictures on CSOR's web page image gallery.

Oh and here too http://www.ottawacitizen.com/news/Ph...156/story.html

YouTube - US and Canadian special forces train North Africans, May 13th, 2011

There's some CSOR in there.

Good post

Anyone know how to get

http://www.ottawacitizen.com/news/44...n?size=620x400

or is it a custom tailor job. I've seen a few people in Borden walking around with these on.

The pockets? Custom job, far as I know, but I have heard around here that they're starting to pop up in Clothing Stores on various bases.

There's also been talk that they're waiting for the new 'style' redesign of the combat uniform, which will look quite different from what we see today.

Most notably, I think will be the possible elimination of the chest pockets. But I'm still hoping to keep the chest pockets, in a lower profile, addition of upper arm pockets, and removal of the lower pockets on the shirts, Something closer to the American design would be nice. I really like the cut of the American ACU.

The canadian combat uniforme fit is so bad, soldiers look like they are wearing a pyjamas.

They should adopt an atletic cut for their BDU and stream line their armor too. Sometime, forme is function.

My sentiment exactly Fox.

I have to disagree, although it may be a trade specific thing.

For me, there are many situations when dealing with ordnance, etc. that I require PPE and armour, but the added bulk of Tac/Wpn, etc. gets in the way, so I actually prefer having the webbing and armour seperately.

To Fox's point that I missed in his post, it's not the armour that's the problem, it's the wearer not knowing enough to size it properly in most cases. Couple quick adjustments (and removal of the aforementioned gauntlets) and you can get it to fit like a glove.

Many people (like in artillery units in the US) simply wear chest rigs over their body armor even though PALS is integrated on them, for that very reason.
There's even an issued chest rig that attaches directly to the body armor with 4 fastex.

I think that'd still be better than the current CF issue (just note it's coming from the basement warrior that I am, so give that the value you want).

I could see having PALS on it being useful just to beener things on there, like a GPS or whatever... besides that I agree with the guys that say that the FPV isn't bad as long as the velcro isn't worn out and it's sized properly. On that note I prefer to leave the shoulders done up and lower it over my head and then do it up than the usual swing around the side method. I find it sits straighter and fits better that way.

There's too many situations where you want to wear just your armour to be able to separate the FPV and the LBV

Edit: Notice I didn't say Tac-Vest? That was on purpose. Fuck that thing.

Oh, I don't even want to get started on that POS issued TV.

I can't wait till they pick the new one, 3 models (that I know of) are currently being used in trials. The only one I've actually seen up close though is the TT MAV that's being given to the guys at my unit to go over.

I know a bunch of the Vandoos and the PPCLIs have the new SORD vest. I hear mostly good stuff about it, except for the usual complaints with rigs. (front heavy, hard to go prone, etc)

My loadout, based on the CSOR:

Reference:
http://img508.imageshack.us/img508/1...065168dgg1.jpg

Me:

http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/5603/dsc01898zo.jpg

http://img545.imageshack.us/img545/6076/dsc01900t.jpg

http://img192.imageshack.us/img192/6805/dsc01903y.jpg

http://i463.photobucket.com/albums/q...9-00026B-1.jpg
http://i463.photobucket.com/albums/q...09-00027-1.jpg
http://i463.photobucket.com/albums/q...11-00029-1.jpg
http://i463.photobucket.com/albums/q...11-00028-1.jpg
http://i463.photobucket.com/albums/q...11-00030-1.jpg

Dude, it's at Expo 150 at the Pembroke Airport going on this weekend! I would've shot more pictures but I didn't want to look like that guy. Rest assured there is mucho gear and gun pr0n at their booth. Check out their Mk48. The missus and I will be there all weekend. PM me if you want to link up.

3RCR, CER, RCHA, Field Amb, Svc Bn have booths set up but I haven't seen a single Jimmy yet LOL! Sad.

Edit: The helmet is Israeli made.

Definitely not CF.
The barrel and the carry handle look wrong. I think LMT Iron sight/Carry Handle with an M4 profile barrel.

*EDIT post is gone.......akward..

Thats part of my team loadout. Trying to look like csor operators. Not much info about this unit so it is very hard to use propper stuff

http://aishidiho.users.photofile.ru/...e/94008303.jpg
http://aishidiho.users.photofile.ru/...e/94008326.jpg
http://aishidiho.users.photofile.ru/...e/94008339.jpg

Looks good, but you need a combat shirt over the t-shirt.

What does the person with the C8 have on their right leg?
Also, what is the black bag on the left leg? If it is a dump pouch, I would get rid of it and just go regular dump pouch that can be attached to the Plate carrier or on the belt without straps on the leg.

As for the weapons, I've seen CSOR with EoTech 553/tan and Specter DRs on their weapons as well as the tan PEQ15(which you already have)
*edit didn't even notice the folding front site, but like Conker said, keep the regular front sight.

What he said^^

And that folding front sight/gaz block.... I'd be really, really surprised. I'd keep the standard front sight.

It was too hot:)

Serpa with sig on the right leg and dump pouch on the left leg

Collecting money for specter:)

Thanks for notice!

Do you know what correct color for t-shirt? Tan or coyote? Operators use blackhawk products or not? Anyone use fastmags? What correct correct ssniper rifle? Or CSOR doesnt use any?

http://www.youtube.com/user/CSORROSC

CSOR has it's own youtube channel now

Photo of CSOR on Arc'teryx LEAF facebook page.

May we have the link?

Yea a link or posting the picture would help.

I checked out their facebook page and I am guessing you are talking about this pic?

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net...14170230_n.jpg

Correct

The Devil's Brigade is back:)

CSOR, Jamaica, 2009

*Those in woodland are jamaican troops. Canadians are in CADPAT.

http://www.legionmagazine.com/en/wp-...csorinset6.jpg
http://www.legionmagazine.com/en/wp-...csorinset1.jpg
http://www.legionmagazine.com/en/wp-.../csorintro.jpg

Source: http://www.legionmagazine.com/en/ind...es-in-jamaica/

EDIT: Tried to zoom-in a bit on the first guy. Hope that helps.
http://img855.imageshack.us/img855/6980/99588512.jpg

What kind of patch left canadian have?

http://postmediaottawacitizen.files....37.4457673.jpg

Exercise patch most likely.

Looks like the Mali flag... probably an exercise patch based around the flag, as pugs said.

2 quick questions: Does CSOR still run Mich 2000s, or do they have OpsCore buckets yet? Also, do they have DD rails yet like US SOF yet? Thanks.

Not enough recent pictures to be able to accurately answer that unless we have someone on ASC who has some ninjas within his friends.

I thought the operator in Jamaica in Conkers post had a 2000.

Pretty hard to say...

The latest one we have are Pug's in this post: http://airsoftcanada.com/showpost.ph...6&postcount=77

A 2001? http://www.jtf2.forces.gc.ca/ig-ri/i...f2ig-roi2ri-08

Crye Combat Pants?

http://media.thestar.topscms.com/ima...af36be387.jpeg

I have some Questions regarding making Csor loadout.

First, would it be wrong to use a lbt 6094a CB as the Pc?
Second, regarding weaponry i have kjw c8 sfw, with heavy barrel exstension, and foldable front sight. is it wide off and keep these ?

Regards Cadpat/csor fan from norway

Go for Khaki instead of CB. Do you have a pic of your blaster?

i can upload it here soon:)

This is myboomstick.i know the thermold mags is out off use but i like the kjw rifle.

This is with basicly norwegian loadout.

imho better to use an-peq 15, storm pistol grip, standart triangle front sight, ris with 7 holes...

What issue sleeping bags for CANSFOCOM? Is it various Snugpak gear are ok to use?

i have orderd peq 15 to it:) but ill get the storm grip.
But 7 hole ris?

CB will work dude.

Thanks for all the answers:)

What kind of light is that? A1 pistol grip, PEQ-15, triangle front sight, and regular M4 RIS.