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MaseTheAce June 4th, 2010 22:19

Broken gun
 
This is a newbie question so i didnt think it was appropriate to post it in doctors corner.

I have Swiss Arms Black Eagle m6 s, last time i used it it stopped cocking. when i pull back the bolt it doesnt catch.
Whats wrong? Is it easy to fix or should i just buy a new gun? how expensive would it be to pay to be fixed?

marcwhite June 4th, 2010 22:20

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Originally Posted by MaseTheAce (Post 1249006)
This is a newbie question so i didnt think it was appropriate to post it in doctors corner.

I have Swiss Arms Black Eagle m6 s, last time i used it it stopped cocking. when i pull back the bolt it doesnt catch.
Whats wrong? Is it easy to fix or should i just buy a new gun? how expensive would it be to pay to be fixed?

1) That gun is of very, very low quality.

2) With low end guns there is usaully no fixing sadly.

MaseTheAce June 4th, 2010 22:23

i know its low quality, dont care

so what should i do then? give me some advice.

Styrak June 4th, 2010 22:28

The way to fix it, is buy a new gun.
Or open it up yourself. It's not worth paying someone to look at. You really have nothing to lose if it's already broken.

fleuryfighter June 4th, 2010 22:30

3 steps to success
1. throw it out
2. Get age verified
3. Get a real airsoft gun from the classifieds
There you go.

MaseTheAce June 4th, 2010 22:30

how much would it cost if i did pay someone to repair it?

NoGear June 4th, 2010 22:34

more than the guns worth sadly

kalnaren June 4th, 2010 22:52

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Originally Posted by MaseTheAce (Post 1249015)
how much would it cost if i did pay someone to repair it?

It wouldn't be worth anyone's time to try.

ShelledPants June 4th, 2010 22:53

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Originally Posted by MaseTheAce (Post 1249015)
how much would it cost if i did pay someone to repair it?

$20 an hour for someone worth their salt. It could be HOURS of work to make the gun fire reasonably, only to have it break a short time after and have to take it back to the gun doctor.

Brokenwings June 4th, 2010 23:39

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Originally Posted by MaseTheAce (Post 1249011)
i know its low quality, dont care

so what should i do then? give me some advice.

Rude much or is it just me?

Slow June 4th, 2010 23:58

I'll open mine later on tonight and show you what it looks like. Once you find out what is broken post in the doctors forums on....either how to fix this part or where to buy it.

Reasoning June 5th, 2010 12:28

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Originally Posted by Brokenwings (Post 1249056)
Rude much or is it just me?

Well considering everyone else is shouldering him away and telling him to just buy a new gun, I don't blame his attitude. Everyone needs to calm down - the guy's just asking for a little help.

First, MaseTheAce - where are you located?

Second - Take the shell of the gun apart; it's a good learning experience. I learned to fix my own guns by first taking a few apart. Just be sure that you remember (make a diagram if necessary) where everything goes again.

Third - let us know where you get from there, by just examining first. Could be a stripped part or something could just be snapped internally.

Fourth - Know that people aren't here to flame you (contrary to popular belief). Some people charge an arm & a leg to even look at guns, let alone fix them for you. So there is some truth behind what people are saying about it not being worth the time and money to give the gun to a doc.

Finally - Get Age Verified. It's good to have regardless, and gives you full access to the community. I've been helped by people selling similar guns to mine in the classifieds, who have repaired the gun in order to sell it. You never know where you'll find help!

pusangani June 5th, 2010 17:22

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Originally Posted by fleuryfighter (Post 1249013)
3 steps to success
1. throw it out
2. Get age verified
3. Get a real airsoft gun from the classifieds
There you go.

This

MaseTheAce June 7th, 2010 18:45

cracking it open
 
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ok so i had stuff to do on the weekend so i didn't get around to it till today.
I cracked open the gun and heres what i found (pictures attached)

Inside the bolt, the piece that should be holding the spring straight is snapped. this is the only thing i found wrong so i'm assuming its the problem.
Does anybody know how i could take the bolt apart to open that up so i can fix it. if not and i have to just replace the whole bolt, is it worth it and if so where could i get it (i live in edmonton AB). if not ill just get a new gun.
sorry the pictures are so crappy (bad camera).

kalnaren June 7th, 2010 18:49

Broken spring guide. Unless it uses a standard spring guide... which I highly, highly doubt, you won't be able to fix it. Besides a new spring guide is probably worth 1/2 the gun anyway.

MaseTheAce June 7th, 2010 18:54

k thanks, but do you have any ideas about how to open it up without breaking it?

DanoftheDead June 7th, 2010 18:54

Like many people here said, you really would be better off just getting a new gun.

MaseTheAce June 7th, 2010 18:56

what would you suggest? and anybody else feel free to give me whatever advice you want.

disasterarea June 7th, 2010 19:08

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Originally Posted by MaseTheAce (Post 1250556)
what would you suggest? and anybody else feel free to give me whatever advice you want.

I advise you to get something like an Aftermath Kraken or a G&G.

The Chad June 7th, 2010 19:18

Advised to get AV'd by a non-AV'd individual.....what has the world come to?

kalnaren June 7th, 2010 19:21

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Originally Posted by disasterarea (Post 1250564)
I advise you to get something like an Aftermath Kraken or a G&G.

I advise you get a good gun.

icaris May 10th, 2011 11:00

Have you found any solution to this problem? 2 members of my airsoft team have the exact same problem with their eagle m6s.

Dont mind all the rude people, there are actually some really helpful and friendly people here on ASC.

L473ncy May 10th, 2011 11:45

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Originally Posted by icaris (Post 1463339)
Have you found any solution to this problem? 2 members of my airsoft team have the exact same problem with their eagle m6s.

Dont mind all the rude people, there are actually some really helpful and friendly people here on ASC.

If you read above kalnaren said it's a broken spring guide... So I would assume you need a new one (if youre teammates are suffering the same problem). Now whether or not it uses a standard spring guide is up in the air but if they can take apart their rifles and try to fit in a new spring guide, put it back together and it works then that's the solution. If it needs a proprietary spring guide.... you probably need to contact the manufacturer in that case.

PS: Swiss Arms = Cybergun = rebranded Chinaclones. Find out who the OEM of the rifle is and you might be able to convince the factory to send you a replacement spring guide.

icaris May 10th, 2011 11:54

Ty for the info, I guess what I meant to ask was if he has replaced it and if that fixed the problem.

enemybrit May 10th, 2011 12:15

does the cylinder head unscrew firstly, if it is crimped on your s.o.l

rmadden May 10th, 2011 14:12

this same problem happened to my friend the spring guide broke


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